Submission of loss return without audit

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07 September 2013 dear all
kindly inform that can i file loss return without audit for AY 2012-13 with total turnover of Rs.49,85,250
loss is Rs.485221
depreciation is Rs.1389552

07 September 2013 please mention the nature of business or professional

08 September 2013 Incase your business not covered under presumptive taxation and profession, you can file the return with loss without audit.

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09 September 2013 the nature of business is daily traveling buses

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dhola nilesh

09 September 2013 if you are not claiming presumptive income u/s.44AD then you can file return without audit

09 September 2013 loss will not be allowed only if the return is filled within due date under sec 139(1)as per sec 80(5).

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13 September 2013 is there any provision about depreciable loss can be filed without audit if turn over is in prescribe limit
kindly revert quick as soon as possible so that i can file return in time
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19 September 2013 dear all
is there make any difference if firm is under audit in preceding year and now make loss with depreciation

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19 September 2013 dear all
is there make any difference if firm is under audit in preceding year and now make loss with depreciation

26 July 2025 Here's a clear summary for your queries about filing a **loss return without audit** for AY 2012-13 with turnover and depreciation details you provided:

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### Key points:

1. **Turnover Limit and Audit Requirement:**

* As per **Section 44AB** of the Income Tax Act, if your turnover is **less than Rs. 1 crore** (for business), audit is **not mandatory**.
* Your turnover is Rs. 49,85,250, which is **below Rs. 1 crore**, so audit is **not required**.

2. **Loss Return Filing:**

* You can file a **loss return without audit** since your turnover is below the prescribed limit.
* Loss will be allowed if the return is filed **within the due date** under **Section 139(1)**.
* Late filing might attract disallowance of loss under **Section 80(5)**.

3. **Depreciation and Loss:**

* Depreciation is a **non-cash expense** and allowed regardless of audit.
* There is no separate provision requiring audit just because depreciation is claimed.
* So, **claiming depreciation along with loss does NOT mandate audit**, provided turnover is within limits.

4. **Effect of Audit in Preceding Year:**

* If the firm was audited in the **preceding year**, it **does not automatically mandate audit** for the current year.
* The audit depends on the turnover and other thresholds for the **current year**.

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### Conclusion:

* Since your business (daily traveling buses) has turnover below Rs. 1 crore, **you can file loss return without audit**.
* Ensure to file within due date to avoid disallowance of losses.
* Depreciation claimed will be allowed, and preceding year audit status does not affect current year audit requirement.

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If you want, I can help draft a checklist or template for filing your return properly. Would you like that?

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26 July 2025 THANKS ASHA KANTA SHARMA FOR BRIEFFING EXPLANATION REGARDING ISSUE
I HAVE ALREADY FILE LOSS RETURN THAT TIME.


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