Income tax return a.y 2011-12

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CA Pooja Tiwari (Querist)
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04 May 2013 My Assesse ITR(original) of A.Y 2011-12 filled was rejected due to the reason that ITR acknowledgement was send to bangalore without his signature, the acknowledgement was again send after signing but not accepted,now since the return cannot be filled after march 2013 i.e after the expiry of filling return for the relevant period, what should be the procedure for filling the return for A.Y 2011-12. Please Advice.

PALASH

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04 May 2013 POOJA MADAM,

FIRST OF ALL , I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT, YOU HAVE DONE A GREATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT MISTAKE , AS FAR AS YOUR COMMITMENT IS CONCERN. SO, ANY WAY, FIRST OF ALL , YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHAT'S THE ACTUAL PROVISION.

ACTUAL PROVISION:-

AN ASSESSSEE CAN FILE HIS RETURN WITHIN A PERIOD OF ONE YEAR FROM THE END OF IT'S RELEVANT ASSESSMENT YEAR & AFTER WHICH IT SHOULD BE TREATED AS AN INVALID RETURN.THEREFORE, FOR A.Y 2011-2012, YOUR DEADLINE WAS 31/03/2013.

WHAT YOU HAVE DONE IN FACT :-

FIRST TIME , FOR A.Y 2011-2012, ITR-V REJECTED BY CPC BANGALORE.

SECOND TIME ALSO , ITR-V REJECTED AS TIME ALREADY EXPIRED FOR A.Y 2011-2012.

FINAL JUDGEMENT :-

SO, THEREFORE, PLEASE TRY TO UNDERSTAND MADAMMMMMMMMMMMMM, THAT, AS FAR AS ACTUAL PROVISION IS CONCERNED, FOR A.Y 2011-2012, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO FILE WITHIN 31/03/2013 UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES & AT ANY COST.
BUT, NOW, AT PRESENT, UNFORTUNATELY , THERE IS NO SUCH PROCEDURE FOR FILING THE RETURN FOR A.Y 2011-2012.

Thanking You,

PALASH RAKSHIT.

CA Pooja Tiwari

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04 May 2013
Hello Palaaaaaaash,
Thanks for the reply, but the mistake was done by the previous staff, not me. Even I know that the due date of filling the return for A.Y 2011-12 has expired, which I have already mention in my query, Is their any thing new about it then tell me.
Thanking You
Pooja Tiwari

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PALASH

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04 May 2013 COME ON POOJA,PLEASE WAKE UP!!!!! FOR GOD'S SAKE PLEASE TRY TO UNDERSTAND!!!!!!!

Pooja, already, I was given my FINAL JUDGEMENT, THEN

POOJA, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY " Is there any thing new about it then tell me ",

FOR A.Y 2011-2012, YOUR DEADLINE 31/03/2013 & AFTER WHICH IT SHOULD BE AS AN INVALID RETURN.
SO, THERE IS NOTHING NEW ABOUT IT.

Thanking you,

PALASH RAKSHIT.

Guest

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05 May 2013 Can you give me date on which u have filed first time Return of A.Y.11-12 , i.e. which ITR- V rejected due to lack of sign

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05 May 2013 and also tell me date of CPC communication to you

CA Pooja Tiwari

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05 May 2013
First of all Palash, I don't need ur judgement, the query was put only for suggestion, n their r other people whom really want to solve the query, so its better that u don't waste ur time in writing so many E,N,O.

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05 May 2013 when that return was filed and intimated by CPC banglore

PALASH

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05 May 2013 POOJA TIWARI,

EXTREMEEEEELY DISAPPOINTED FOR THIS KIND OF BASELESS/RIDICULOUS/WORTHLESS TYPE OF COMMITMENT , WHICH YOU ALREADY GIVEN.
ANY WAY, POOJA TIWARI, ONE THING YOU MUST REMEMBER, THAT

" RULES ARE RULES , NO ONE CAN DENY THIS, WE HAVE TO RESPECT IT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES & AT ANY COST , DEFINITELY, WE ARE NOT ABOVE THE RULES, "
AND THE RULES IS THAT " FOR A.Y 2011-2012, DEADLINE WAS 31/03/2013 ", THAT'S FINAL & WHICH I TOLD YOU EARLIER MANY TIMES & EVERY MEMBER OF OUR INSTITUTE ALSO AWARE OF THIS GENERAL MATTER.

POOJA, IN YOUR CASE, FIRST TIME , ITR-V REJECTED DUE TO LACK OF SIGN. AND IN SECOND TIME , YOU ARE UNABLE TO FILE WITHIN 31/03/2013 AS TIME ALREADY EXPIRED.

SO, POOJA, YOUR QUERY ALREADY SOLVED, & NOOOOOOOOOOOO ONE IN THE WORLDDDDDDDDDDDDD CAN DENY MY COMMITMENT.

THEN , WHY ARE YOU ASKING REPEATEDLY IN THIS FORUM IRRESPECTIVE OF KNOWING THE ACTUAL FACT ??????????????? WHY????????????????????? WHY?????????????? &
THAT'S WHY I AM GETTING SOOOOO ANGRYYYYYYY & USED EARLIER SO MANY E,N,O.

Thanking you,

PALASH RAKSHIT.

CA Pooja Tiwari

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06 May 2013 PALASH RAKSHIT,,,

THIS FORUM IS NOT UR SOLE PROPERTY THAT U HAVE GIVEN UR FINAL JUDGEMENT, MAY BE MY QUERY MAY NOT HAVE A SOLUTION, BUT THIS IS NOT THE WAY TO RESPOND BACK,,,
ONE THING I CAN'T GET THAT WHY R U SO ANNOYED WITH MY QUERY,,
I REALLY PITTY ON UR NEGATIVE APPROACH WITH U HAVE AS AN EXPERT.

CA Pooja Tiwari

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06 May 2013

HI VIVEK,

THE RETURN WAS ORIGINALLY FILLED ON 29/08/2012.
THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT WAS SEND ON 11/09/2012, WHERE THE SIGNATURE WAS MISSING.
SECOND TIME WHEN THE ITRV WAS AGAIN SEND ON 04/03/2013, IT WAS REJECTED.
CPC HAS NOT COMMUNICATED US DIRECTLY, EXCEPT THE ITRV WAS REJECTED BY THEM.

REGARDS:
POOJA TIWARI

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08 May 2013 As per notification no 01/2013 dated 07/01/2013.

time limit for filing ITR-V for A.y. 11-12 and A.Y.12-13 has been extended as follows

ITR -V can be filed up to 31.03.2013
or
120 days from the date of filing
which ever is later
.
so u have second time send ITR - V on 04/03/2013 it is within time limit extended by notification so CPC can not reject it.

Regards
CA Vivek Trivedi
and sorry for belated reply.

PALASH

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08 May 2013 POOJA TIWARI,
PLEASE TRY TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT'S THE ACTUAL PROVISION & THE

ACTUAL PROVISION :-

IF SIGNED ITR-V NOT SEND WITHIN 120 DAYS FROM DATE OF UPLOAD, THEN, CPC BANGALORE AUTOMATICALLY, REJECTS SOFT COPY OF ITR- FORM WHICH YOU UPLOADED EARLIER
&
AFTER THAT, THEN IN THAT CASE , YOU HAVE TO FILE THE RELEVANT RETURN OF YOUR CLIENT ONCE AGAIN FOR THAT ASSESSMENT YEAR i.e,
1) once again download ITR-FORM
2) ONCE AGAIN, FILL ALL THE SHEETS WITH RELEVANT DETAILS.
3) VALIDATE EACH SHEET.
4) CHECK 26AS & PUT EXACT AMOUNT OF TDS/TCS/SELF ASSESSMENT TAX INTO TDS/TCS COLUMM IN ITR FORM.
5) THEN GENERATE THE XML FILE ONCE AGAIN.
6) SAVE THE XML FILE ONCE AGAIN.
7)THEN , ONCE AGAIN, UPLOAD THE XML FILE.
8)THEN, ONCE AGAIN, PRINT ITR-V ACK.
9) ONCE AGAIN, SIGN & SEND TO CPC BANGALORE WITH SPEED POST & DON'T MENTION " Post bag no 1 " in case of speed post.

But, Pooja please try to understand,that,

Second time when ITR-V SEND ON 04/03/2013, Cpc Bangalore rejected because 120 DAYS ALREADY EXPIRED AS you send ITR -V FOR THE RETURN UPLOADED ON 29/08/2012.
BUT,
IN FACT, AFTER EXPIRY OF 120 DAYS/ AFTER FAILURE OF FIRST TIME , YOU ARE REQUIRED TO FILE THE RETURN ONCE AGAIN ( BUT DEADLINE WAS 31/03/2013 ) , SIGN THE ITR-V ONCE AGAIN, & SEND THE SIGNED ITR-V TO CPC BANGALORE ONCE AGAIN FOR A.Y 2011-2012.

SO, WHATEVER, CPC BANGALORE HAVE DONE IN SECOND TIME , THERE IS NOTHING ILLEGAL .

Thank you,

PALASH RAKSHIT.

CA Pooja Tiwari

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09 May 2013
THANKS VIVEK FOR SPENDING UR VALUABLE TIME FOR MY QUERY.

POOJA TIWARI

PALASH

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09 May 2013 POOJA,

I AM REALLY DISAPPOINTED FOR THE PERFORMANCE OF VIVEK TRIVEDI & VIVEK TRIVEDI TOTALLY MISLEADSSSSS YOU & THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT THIS MATTER .

PLEASE TRY TO UNDERSTAND POOJA,TRUST ME, PLEASE, THAT VIVEK TRIVEDI HAVE DONE A GREAT GREAT MISTAKE, & I FIND OUT HUGE AMOUNT OF DEFICIENCY IN HIS LANGUAGE, BECAUSE,
AS PER VIVEK TRIVEDI , he told that

" second time send ITR-V on 04/03/2013 , it is within time limit extended by notification so cpc cannot reject it ".........

But, POOJA, THE FACT IS , AS FAR AS INCOME TAX PROVISION IS CONCERN,

" SECOND TIME WHEN U SEND ITR-V ON 04/03/2013, IT IS NOT WITHIN TIME LIMIT , BECAUSE 120 DAYS ALREADY EXPIRED, AS YOU UPLOADED ORIGINAL RETURN ON 29/08/2012 ".

AT LAST, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A FINAL WARNING TO VIVEK TRIVEDI THAT "

" DON'TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT U EVER EVER EVER TRY TO MISGUIDE TO AN INNOCENT PERSON "

DON'TTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

FIRST YOU LEARN, FIRST YOU STUDY, THEN AFTER YOU CAN GIVE ADVICE , NOT BEFOREEEEEEEE.

Thanking You,

PALASH RAKSHIT.

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09 May 2013 MR RAKSHIT kindly refer to notification and its intention .
You are just reading plan but not giving importance of intention and words of notification,
Due to many ITR - V has not been send on time so CBDT has decided to condone the delay up to 31/03/2013.

ok.
so
there is no need to file return again at any way,
ok
if no notification is there and we have not send ITR-V within 120 days then we have to file again within time limit of sec 139(4)
but here CBDT has condone the delay as per notification so no need of filing return again.

AND Mr. PALASH RAKSHIT ,first of all read , then understand then apply and only after then advise ,
ok

PALASH

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10 May 2013 VIVEK TRIVEDI,

Why don't u understand ???????? & what's wrong with you ????????????????????????????

I PERSONALLY MORE THAN 265 ONLINE RETURNS SUBMITTED TO CPC BANGALORE DURING LAST 4-5 MONTHS ONLY & I REQUEST U THAT PLEASE TRY TO UNDERSTAND ,THAT THERE ARE 2 SEPARATE MATTERSSSSSSSS..........

1) FIRST ONE, ITR-V MUST REQUIRE TO BE SEND WITHIN 120 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF UPLOAD UNDER ANY ANY CIRCUMSTANCES & THIS RULE IS TOTALLY UNCHANGED AS PER AS CPC BANGALORE IS CONCERNED.

&

2) SECOND ONE, THE NOTIFICATION, WHICH U TOLD EARLIER , THAT , DATE EXTENDED FOR RETURN FILING UPTO 31/03/2013 FOR A.Y 2011-2012 & I FULLY AWARE OF THIS MATTER

Now, I request you, please try to understand that " when 2nd time ITR-V SEND ON 04/03/2013, THEN IN THAT CASE, IT IS NOT NOT DEFINITELY NOT WITHIN THE TIME LIMIT, AS 120 DAYS ALREADY EXPIRED ( AS ORIGINAL RETURN UPLOAD ON 29/08/2012 ) & THAT'S WHY CPC BANGALORE REJECTED THAT 2ND ITR-V........

SO, CPC BANGALORE DEFINITELYYYYYYYYYYYYY IN A RIGHT WAY ........ IN A RIGHT PATH,

AND

YOU , I AM SORRY TO SAYYYYYY THAT HUGEEEEEEEE AMOUNT OF DEFICIENCY , I FIND OUT............

PALASH RAKSHIT.

Guest

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10 May 2013 the date is not extended for filing of return but just for sending ITR-V.
and giv u below link of notification kindly read it and interpret it properly.
https://incometaxindiaefiling.gov.in/e-Filing/Portal/StaticPDF/ITR_V_Extension.pdf

PALASH

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10 May 2013 YES, I FULLY AWARE OF THIS NOTIFICATION WHICH U TOLD EARLIER , &
Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, TRY TO UNDERSTAND THAT, AS PER NOTIFICATION :-

" FOR ITRs a.y 2011-2012 ( filed on or after 01/04/2011 ) till 28th of February 2013 . "

AND AS FAR AS POOJA'S QUERY IS CONCERNED, 2ND TIME ITR-V SEND ON 04/03/2013 ( i.e, after 28/02/2013 )for a.y 2011-2012 & SUBSEQUENTLY, CPC BANGALORE, ALSO REJECTED THAT PARTICULAR ITR-V.

SO, THERE IS NOTHING ILLEGAL AS FAR AS CPC BANGALORE POINT OF VIEW.
&

HOW CAN U SAY THAT " cpc cannot reject it " ???????????????

PALASH RAKSHIT.

Guest

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10 May 2013 ITR filed means date of filing ,
and not date of submitting ITR - V with CPC benglore.
really what happens to yar

PALASH

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10 May 2013 VIVEK TRIVEDI,
Reallyyyyyyyyyyy, TRUST ME, THAT , YOU ARE WRONGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG ONCE AGAIN ,

BUT ANY WAY, MY HUMBLE REQUEST TO YOU ONCE AGAINNNNNNNNNNNNN, THAT , PLEASEEEEEEEEE

" DON'T MISGUIDE HER "

DON'TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

FOR GOD'S SAKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

PLEASE, DON'TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT..........

Thanks.....
PALASH RAKSHIT.......

CA Pooja Tiwari

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10 May 2013 PALASH
I HAVE GONE THROUGH THAT NOTIFICATION,,AND HAVE UNDERSTOOD WHAT U R TRYING TO SAY,,I KNOW THAT CPC HAVE REJECTED THE ITRV LEGALLY,,AND NOBODY CAN MISGUIDE ME.. ITS JUST A MATTER OF INTERPRETATION.
THANKS,
POOJA

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PALASH

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10 May 2013 POOJA,

REALLY SOO HAPPY & PLEASE TRY TO UNDERSTAND MAM, THAT " I HAVE NO INTENTION TO UNDERESTIMATE VIVEK TRIVEDI ".

SO, MAM, FINALLY, I GOT JUSTICE , I AM SOO HAPPY MAM, SOO HAPPYY.

FEEL EXTREMEEEEEEELY PROUD THAT

" POOJA TIWARI BELONGS TO MY PROFESSION "

Thank you very much.......

PALASH RAKSHIT.

Karan Teli

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18 June 2013 even know if the solution is not done then u may ask ur ITO at ur base place. He would help u out. Generally this is the time where he asks some money to us. (practically speaking) and then he would take care of everything else. Fortunately and unforuantely i have done this and my work is done. I know as an expert i am not obliged to give u such suggestion but if the return is really so important you can try this. If u and ur client is lucky they would accpet it. Avoid negative approaches.

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