Industrial training
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14 August 2013
please anybody tell me the working hours in industrial training.can i take ca final coaching along with it.
14 August 2013
Hi
WORKING HOURS
Regulation 51 talking about Industrial Training such regulation not specified working hour of trainee doing industrial training.So, you can take final coaching along with it. Regulation 60 deal with working hour of an article assistant which says that the minimum working hours of an articled assistant shall be 35 hours per week (excluding lunch break) which shall be regulated by the Principal from time to time, subject to such directions and guidelines, as may be issued by the Council. In details about working hour is here under:
i. The working hours for the articled assistants shall be 35 hours in a week, excluding the lunch break.
ii. The office hours of the Principal for providing articled training to the articled assistants shall not generally be before 9.00 A.M. or after 7.00 P.M.
iii. The normal working hours for the articled assistants shall not start after 11.00 A.M. or end before 5.00 P.M.
iv. The working hours for the articled assistants should not exceed 35 hours in a week excluding the lunch break and normally an articled assistant be required to work during the normal working hours fixed for articled assistants.
v. In case of the exigencies of work, an articled assistant may be required to work beyond his/her normal working hours. However, under such circumstances, the aggregate number of working hours shall not exceed 45 hours per week. The requirement to work beyond 35 hours in a week should not be a practice but only in exceptional circumstances. Further, where the articled assistant is required to work beyond normal working hours, and aggregate of such hours exceed 35 hours per week, he/she shall be entitled to compensatory leave calculated with reference to number of completed working hours, over and above, 35 hours per week.
WORKING HOURS
Regulation 51 talking about Industrial Training such regulation not specified working hour of trainee doing industrial training.So, you can take final coaching along with it. Regulation 60 deal with working hour of an article assistant which says that the minimum working hours of an articled assistant shall be 35 hours per week (excluding lunch break) which shall be regulated by the Principal from time to time, subject to such directions and guidelines, as may be issued by the Council. In details about working hour is here under:
i. The working hours for the articled assistants shall be 35 hours in a week, excluding the lunch break.
ii. The office hours of the Principal for providing articled training to the articled assistants shall not generally be before 9.00 A.M. or after 7.00 P.M.
iii. The normal working hours for the articled assistants shall not start after 11.00 A.M. or end before 5.00 P.M.
iv. The working hours for the articled assistants should not exceed 35 hours in a week excluding the lunch break and normally an articled assistant be required to work during the normal working hours fixed for articled assistants.
v. In case of the exigencies of work, an articled assistant may be required to work beyond his/her normal working hours. However, under such circumstances, the aggregate number of working hours shall not exceed 45 hours per week. The requirement to work beyond 35 hours in a week should not be a practice but only in exceptional circumstances. Further, where the articled assistant is required to work beyond normal working hours, and aggregate of such hours exceed 35 hours per week, he/she shall be entitled to compensatory leave calculated with reference to number of completed working hours, over and above, 35 hours per week.
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14 August 2013
thankyou sir! also can you please tell me how to communicate this to my ca(principal)
14 August 2013
You can only request to your principal to give permission to attend coaching classes. On the basis of above mentioned regulation, you can not claim leave for classes.
16 August 2013
sir, can my present principal deny my proposal for ind. training. and also how should i intimate my present principal.
01 August 2024
Your current principal can indeed have a say in your industrial training, but there are steps and protocols to follow. Here’s how to handle the situation:
### **1. Principal’s Consent:**
- **Denial Possibility:** Your principal can deny your proposal if they have valid reasons, such as concerns about your workload or the timing of your departure. However, the principal's consent is generally not a formal requirement for applying for industrial training. The key aspect is ensuring that you meet the ICAI’s criteria for industrial training.
### **2. How to Intimate Your Principal:**
- **Formal Notification:**
- **Timing:** Inform your principal as early as possible, ideally a few months before your intended start date for industrial training. This allows adequate time for transition and adjustment.
- **Format:** Submit a formal letter or email to your principal. Clearly state your intention to pursue industrial training, the reasons for it, and the proposed timeline.
**Sample Letter/Email to Principal:**
---
**[Your Name]**
**[Your Address]**
**[City, State, ZIP Code]**
**[Date]**
**[Principal’s Name]**
**[Firm’s Name]**
**[Firm’s Address]**
**[City, State, ZIP Code]**
Dear [Principal’s Name],
I hope this message finds you well. I am writing to inform you of my intention to undertake industrial training as part of my CA Final curriculum. As you are aware, I have completed [number] years of my articleship and would like to utilize the remaining period for industrial training.
I am planning to start my industrial training from [proposed start date] and continue until [proposed end date]. This opportunity will provide me with valuable exposure to [specific areas of interest or learning goals] and will complement my overall professional development.
I will ensure that my responsibilities and duties at the firm are managed effectively during this transition period. I am open to discussing any concerns you might have and would appreciate your support in facilitating this process.
Please let me know if we can arrange a meeting to discuss this further. Thank you for your understanding and cooperation.
Yours sincerely,
**[Your Name]**
**[Your CA Registration Number]**
---
### **3. Dealing with Principal’s Concerns:**
- **Addressing Concerns:** If your principal has concerns or objections, discuss them openly. You might need to demonstrate how you plan to manage your workload or how your training will not affect your current responsibilities.
- **Transition Plan:** Offer to help with the transition process by training someone else or providing a plan for your responsibilities during your absence.
### **4. ICAI Notification:**
- **Form Submission:** Once you have the consent from your principal (if required) and have secured a place for industrial training, you will need to submit the Industrial Training Form to ICAI. This form will include details about your training organization and the duration of your training.
- **ICAI Procedures:** Follow the ICAI guidelines for applying and getting approval for industrial training. Ensure all required forms are completed and submitted as per ICAI’s requirements.
### **Summary:**
- **Intimate Early:** Notify your principal well in advance.
- **Formal Communication:** Use a formal letter or email to communicate your intention.
- **Address Concerns:** Be prepared to address any concerns your principal might have.
- **Follow ICAI Process:** Complete the necessary ICAI forms for industrial training.
If you have more specific concerns or need further assistance, feel free to ask!
### **1. Principal’s Consent:**
- **Denial Possibility:** Your principal can deny your proposal if they have valid reasons, such as concerns about your workload or the timing of your departure. However, the principal's consent is generally not a formal requirement for applying for industrial training. The key aspect is ensuring that you meet the ICAI’s criteria for industrial training.
### **2. How to Intimate Your Principal:**
- **Formal Notification:**
- **Timing:** Inform your principal as early as possible, ideally a few months before your intended start date for industrial training. This allows adequate time for transition and adjustment.
- **Format:** Submit a formal letter or email to your principal. Clearly state your intention to pursue industrial training, the reasons for it, and the proposed timeline.
**Sample Letter/Email to Principal:**
---
**[Your Name]**
**[Your Address]**
**[City, State, ZIP Code]**
**[Date]**
**[Principal’s Name]**
**[Firm’s Name]**
**[Firm’s Address]**
**[City, State, ZIP Code]**
Dear [Principal’s Name],
I hope this message finds you well. I am writing to inform you of my intention to undertake industrial training as part of my CA Final curriculum. As you are aware, I have completed [number] years of my articleship and would like to utilize the remaining period for industrial training.
I am planning to start my industrial training from [proposed start date] and continue until [proposed end date]. This opportunity will provide me with valuable exposure to [specific areas of interest or learning goals] and will complement my overall professional development.
I will ensure that my responsibilities and duties at the firm are managed effectively during this transition period. I am open to discussing any concerns you might have and would appreciate your support in facilitating this process.
Please let me know if we can arrange a meeting to discuss this further. Thank you for your understanding and cooperation.
Yours sincerely,
**[Your Name]**
**[Your CA Registration Number]**
---
### **3. Dealing with Principal’s Concerns:**
- **Addressing Concerns:** If your principal has concerns or objections, discuss them openly. You might need to demonstrate how you plan to manage your workload or how your training will not affect your current responsibilities.
- **Transition Plan:** Offer to help with the transition process by training someone else or providing a plan for your responsibilities during your absence.
### **4. ICAI Notification:**
- **Form Submission:** Once you have the consent from your principal (if required) and have secured a place for industrial training, you will need to submit the Industrial Training Form to ICAI. This form will include details about your training organization and the duration of your training.
- **ICAI Procedures:** Follow the ICAI guidelines for applying and getting approval for industrial training. Ensure all required forms are completed and submitted as per ICAI’s requirements.
### **Summary:**
- **Intimate Early:** Notify your principal well in advance.
- **Formal Communication:** Use a formal letter or email to communicate your intention.
- **Address Concerns:** Be prepared to address any concerns your principal might have.
- **Follow ICAI Process:** Complete the necessary ICAI forms for industrial training.
If you have more specific concerns or need further assistance, feel free to ask!
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