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Articleship Problems and Suggestions

Debojit (Student CA Final) (308 Points)

08 January 2010  

Hi Friends,

I’m Debojit, a CA Student undergoing my Articleship Training for the past two years. Like all CA students, I’m not at all satisfied with my Articleship Training. And in the past one year, I’ve become so fed up that now I’ve decided to write a letter to the Institute clearly stating the problems of all the students. I’ve read the forum on this site & I found that there are many other students who are suffering like me. I’ve decided that I want a change in the rules of Articleship or else I’m quitting CA. For this, I want the support of all of you because I alone will not be able to bring this change. I’ve compiled a letter for the Institute revealing the present system of Articleship after taking into consideration whatever I’ve seen & read. I’d like you all to mail this to the concerned members of the Institute so that they take this matter seriously & react to it. You are free to share your views on this matter.

So Here Goes the Letter:

Respected Sir/Madam,

This is on behalf of thousands of students who are undergoing articleship training in different parts of India. One of the major concerns of all of us is ARTICLESHIP TRAINING. We feel that the present system of Articleship training is very strict on the students & hence it gives an undue advantage to all the employers.

PROBLEMS:

We would like to bring to your notice the following hardships that the students are currently facing:

1. Transfer of Articles:

The Institute had restricted the Transfer of Articles w.e.f. April 1, 2009. Due to this restriction, various students are now being forced to continue working under their present employers eventhough they are not satisfied with their employment. Due to this, the employers are exploiting their articled assistants to work under the terms & conditions that suit the employer. Hence, the employers are enjoying a dominant position & the students are feeling totally handicapped.

2. Irregular/Non-payment of Stipend:

This is one of the most common problems of all the students. In many cases, the employer is not paying any stipend to the articled assistants. Also, various employers are making deductions from the minimum prescribed stipend amount for leaves that are available to the articled assistants i.e. even if the articled assistant has not taken any excess leave still amount is being deducted.

3. Nature of Work:

In offices, the employers are taking undue advantage of their trainees by delegating their personal work to them just for the sake of keeping them occupied. The students are being forced to follow their orders just because they have no other choice. Some Members are also using their Articled Assistants as Office Boys & Personal Assistants which is totally unfair on the students.

4. Leave During Exams:

Clearing the CA Examination requires a lot of hard work especially in the modern age of cut-throat competition. Students need at least 2-3 months to prepare themselves mentally for the exams but the employers do not understand this & hence they deny their articled assistants from taking sufficient leaves during the exam season. This adversely affects the performance of students in the crucial CA examinations.

5. Timings of Articleship Training:

35 hours of articleship training in a week are very high considering the amount of coaching a CA student is required to undergo. Even when there is not much audit work, still the students are forced to sit in their respective offices & do some other unofficial/personal work of the employer which in no way is related to practical training. This results in wastage of precious time of the students which could otherwise have been utilised in studying.

6. Discrimination amongst Articles:

It has been found that some Articled assistants enjoy a superior position than others just because they are the relatives/close friends or are of the same caste of the Employer. Such discrimination is totally unhealthy especially in a professional course like CA.

SUGGESTIONS:

Being an integral part of the Institute, we would like to put forward a few solutions to these problems in order to improve the present system of Articleship Training. Here is a summary of some useful suggestions:

1. This is very important. The Restriction on Transfer of Articles should also be relaxed a little bit. We feel that an Articled Assistant should be given at least one chance to rectify his decision. After all, every student should have the right of freedom to choose his/her employer. Hence, the Institute should make amendments & allow the Articled Assistants to take at least one Transfer during their entire Articleship period without any hassle.

2. The Institute should come out with a strict rule that compulsorily directs the Employer to pay stipend in full to its Articled Assistants. Also, the prescribed amount of minimum stipend should be increased by at least Rs.1000 considering the workload & the amount of time devoted by the Articled Assistants. Currently, even a sweeper/servant/worker demands a minimum of Rs.1000. This shows that the position of an Articled Assistant is very poor & even worse than that of a sweeper/servant/worker during his/her Articleship period.

3. The type of work that an Articled Assistant is required to perform should also be clarified with both the students as well as the members. This would prevent the undue exploitation of Articled Assistants.

4. Exams are a very important part of the CA Curriculum. Hence, it is necessary that the Institute provides specifically a time period (say 2-3 months) that shall be necessarily allowed by the Employer to their Articled Assistants as leave during their exams. This would prevent unnecessary conflicts between the Employer & the Articled Assistants.

5. This is an interesting suggestion. Like all businesses & professions, even Chartered Accountants have an off-season (generally from October to March). During this time, there is not much work for an articled assistant since the Audit Work generally starts after the financial year ends i.e. from 1st April onwards. Hence, it would be appropriate to reduce the working hours in a week of Articled Assistants from 35 hours to say 20-25 hours during the 6 months ranging from 1st October to 31st March. This would not bother the Employers much since there is not much work & also the students would get additional time for their studies.

6. It is a general myth that the CA course is very long in duration. Even a student who clears all the exams in his/her first attempt takes at an average 5 years to become a Chartered Accountant. The main reason for this is the duration of Articleship Training (3 years/3.5 years). We understand that practical training is a very important part of the CA Curriculum but it is necessary that its duration carefully looked into. Hence, a reduction of around 6 months of this training would not make much difference. In fact, it would help the students in settling into their careers earlier than usual.

7. The Institute should also lay emphasis on the system of compensatory leaves because there are various members who are not following it especially after the month of September when the students had spent sleepless nights due to heavy workload.

The views expressed in this letter are on behalf of thousands of students representing the CA Fraternity from different parts of India.

We are sure that the welfare of students is of high priority to the Council of ICAI. We sincerely hope that after going through this letter, you will realise the hardships faced by all the CA students & keeping this in mind, you would come up with a better system to impart practical training to your students which is fair to both the students as well as the Members of the Institute. We earnestly request you to kindly look into the matter & take necessary steps to improve the situation of the students.

Awaiting a positive & quick response from your side.

Thanking you in advance.

Yours faithfully,

ALL INDIA CA STUDENTS

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Friends, I know that after reading the above letter, you must have been thinking about the same situation in your office. But don’t be disheartened because you are not alone, there are several other students who are with you. Its high time now that we all UNITE & get ourselves noticed because the Institute is taking us for granted. The time is also right because there will be a new President coming in the next month & this might work in our favour. Finally, I hope that this post has motivated other students like me to fight against injustice imposed by the employers & the rules of the Institute…..


 103 Replies

Nivethans (articles) (75 Points)
Replied 09 January 2010

We all want to form a community especially  in ragard to Termination, as the new rule makes the principal to treat the students as their slaves

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Vishal Suresh Jain (Article Assistant) (27 Points)
Replied 09 January 2010

ya....exactly...problems are being faced by Students. employers are very harsh on us & we really need to be treat as Students & not Servants...

I am doing Articleship because i want to be a CA!!!

If They Want Loyalty, Pay me appropriate amount orelse hire a DOG!!!!!!

Debojit (Student CA Final) (308 Points)
Replied 10 January 2010

Ya thats what is exactly happening...We're being treated like dogs & paid nothing.....

CA.ViVeK M ACA (ACCOUNTS DEPARTMENT) (28514 Points)
Replied 10 January 2010

It is a mind opening and lead a light to the problems faced by a CA student.

Debojit (Student CA Final) (308 Points)
Replied 11 January 2010

Frndz, I request u all to send the above letter (text in black) to the Institute's Mail IDs so that they realise the importance of the matter....

I've done my part (I've posted a letter & also sent this as an e-mail)....

Plz Frnds, we desperately need ur support in order to bring a change....

Amruta Shewale (Student CA FINAL) (298 Points)
Replied 11 January 2010

 ya me too facing the same problem but i m scared that if i wrote letter to icai they will keep a watch on all such students and unnecesary hardship we will face. u dont think that icai is aware of this thing and just close there eyes on such matters as they themself are ca's and want ca students to work like dogs. even dogs get good treatment i say

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Himanshu Bhanawat (Articleship) (111 Points)
Replied 12 January 2010

@ Debojit

U hv pressed the right nerve of the students. Actually i'm a CPT student and waiting for result bt i hv heard the same frm many of seniors...This is really a black spot on the path of CA studies...atleast proper respect and dignity of the student should be taken care of..after this torture students will also become CA n will sit on the same level as their employers so why this tradition on torture is alive....

A better mental support and challenging work will make better CA not by overloading the student with personal work will help them in becoming a better CA...

Lets raise a voice and i'm sure ICAI also not want to harass student...their vision is to make good CA.s,,,

Debojit (Student CA Final) (308 Points)
Replied 13 January 2010

Amruta, I can understand ur situation but I don't think that there is any harm in writing such a letter to the Institute coz we are just putting our point forward....

And I don't think that the Institute is aware of what all is happening, we ourselves have to bring all this to their notice....

I again want to remind u that no one is alone here and there are thousands of people who are writing similar mails to the Institute....

I, once again, request you all to send the above letter (text in BLACK) to the Institute...

Also, when you send an email to the Institute, drop in a reply to this post so that we can measure the no. of emails sent and response of the students (and also so that this remains a popular discussion and remains on top for newbies to view!!)

It is necessary that the New President realises the importance of this matter & reacts to it immediately.....

Thanx Friends, I hope u all will co-operate....

ritesh (ca final articled assitant)   (176 Points)
Replied 14 January 2010

hi friends i also wat to send this letter to Icai....can you tell me the email address of the concerned official at which this letter needs to be send to the institute...............lets hope for the best

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Debojit (Student CA Final) (308 Points)
Replied 18 January 2010

There are many E-mail IDs of the Institute. Even I was in confusion as to who to send. Finally, I found these e-mail IDs & forwarded to all of them. I also got a reply on the next day saying that:
"THE MATTER RAISED BY YOU HAS BEEN FORWARDED TO THE RELEVANT DEPARTMENT & IS UNDER CONSIDERATION."

Here are the E-Mail IDs (remove spaces):
Article Assistant Related Enquiries
ICAI Articles Section
Board of Studies, Noida
Secretary, ICAI
Secretary, ICAI (Alternate e-mail)
ICAI Grievance Desk
ICAI President
ICAI Vice-President

I request you all to send the above letter to all these e-mail addresses...

Kanthraj (SPA) (26 Points)
Replied 19 January 2010

Can anyone let me know good ca firms for articleship in bangalore

Sambit Patel (Director) (180 Points)
Replied 21 January 2010

Im seriously going to develop a WHOLE NEW ONLINE ARTICLESHIP SYSTEM .

I wont be leaving my wife for articleship at all. Neither we want money, nor do we need to go anywhere.

Pritish (Manager- Accounts and Finance)   (56 Points)
Replied 21 January 2010

Originally posted by : Sambit Patel
Im seriously going to develop a WHOLE NEW ONLINE ARTICLESHIP SYSTEM .
I wont be leaving my wife for articleship at all. Neither we want money, nor do we need to go anywhere.

Its doesnt matter what u are going to do, because the poject needs to be approved by our Institue of Charterd Accountants of India. It is the statutory governing body, and its autonomus.

payal (business) (38 Points)
Replied 26 January 2010

is required to serve the extension period under same principal....say for eg. if articleship gets over in march and extension is till mid of august...so can the period from april to aug can be served with another principal..in another firm..

 

plz..plz...reply...


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