Disappiointed in icai

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Alright. Let's talk straight. Chartered Accountants, as professionals, should set-up their own practice and work as professionals, instead of seeking work in other areas, where apparently, they don't hold much of an expertise.

Most freshly minted Chartered Accountants would love to work for themselves, in a professional capacity. However, most, don't have the adequate resources, which includes money, clientele etc. Make no mistake. Most of them have an adequate knowledge to do the work of a Chartered Accountant, which can be demonstrated by their abilities developed from their articleship(which, while another story is too long a period. We're enslaved by existing CA's, since we're cheap labor. We get paid a minimum stipend, while do quite the work. Sure we take a couple of months to learn, but after that, we're just made to work. I've been through the experience, and I'm still going through it. I've learnt most of the work. Not to say that I can replace my Principal, but there isn't any more to learn, and I'm being honest. And I'm working for a mid-to-large size firm)

Don't you think ICAI should incentivize new Chartered Accountants by alloting them work, amongst other things? Correct me if I'm wrong, and do point out if my suggestion is ludicrous, but can't it be possible for ICAI to allot Statutory Audits to fresh Chartered Accountants? Now I know that's against the Companies Act, but can't ICAI develop some sort of a scheme to allot work to new Chartered Accountants to give them an initial boost, in their otherwise struggling career? And just an initial boost. I'm not suggesting that ICAI should become responsible for their whole career, but just the "initial boost". And, in all honesty, a simple Statutory Audit of a Company would bring a whole new line of work, including Tax Audits, Management Consutancy, etc., which would then depend on the calibre of the Chartered Accountant.

I'll soon become a Chartered Accountant, but looking at the industry-wide hiring curve for Chartered Accountants, I don't expect to be paid on par, or even close to it, with other high-calibre graduates from IIT/IIM, despite putting in more or less the same efforts. We're different from them, we're not some general graduate in finance or marketing. We're supposed to have an expertise in our line of work, which otherwise nobody else can render,

Any other ways you can think of, that ICAI can assist in establishing new Chartered Accountants? I'd seriously love to work for myself, and I know most of us have the ability of doing it, but we're just pushed away because of inadequate resources.

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I feel there is excessive "self-proclamation" syndrome in the students who are pursuing CA :P

I see everyone just blabbering about how talented, deserving, hard working the students are, which is not the truth. We are living in a fantasy world where all the blame goes to ICAI as the students are talented & deserving!

Your idea of giving an initial boost by ICAI is not bad(or good). How will you define "Initial boost"? Lets assume ICAI implements this plan. How many audits do you think will be enough?  If ICAI allots one audit, people will ask for 5, if ICAI allots 5, then 10. Same goes for the period, 1yr,3yr,5yr,10yrs? People can see defect in everything which doesn't suit. I can imagine people saying "We have worked like slaves for 3yrs, the initial boost should also be 3yrs" cheeky Some will justify 5yrs on account of being talented.The demands will keep coming & the truth is that you cannot satisfy everyone.

So, keeping disappointments aside we should focus on our exams, studies & our future.

Originally posted by : Ak
I feel there is excessive "self-proclamation" syndrome in the students who are pursuing CA :P

I see everyone just blabbering about how talented, deserving, hard working the students are, which is not the truth. We are living in a fantasy world where all the blame goes to ICAI as the students are talented & deserving!

Your idea of giving an initial boost by ICAI is not bad(or good). How will you define "Initial boost"? Lets assume ICAI implements this plan. How many audits do you think will be enough?  If ICAI allots one audit, people will ask for 5, if ICAI allots 5, then 10. Same goes for the period, 1yr,3yr,5yr,10yrs? People can see defect in everything which doesn't suit. I can imagine people saying "We have worked like slaves for 3yrs, the initial boost should also be 3yrs"  Some will justify 5yrs on account of being talented.The demands will keep coming & the truth is that you cannot satisfy everyone.

So, keeping disappointments aside we should focus on our exams, studies & our future.

Now, see. Your idea is to have nothing done. We're a part of an organization, and I wouldn't be wrong to claim that the very organization we're a part of should look out for our interests. What's wrong? We have powerful lobbies forming a part of many other institutions.

And what about the excessive "self-proclamation"? I don't get it? I've never mentioned we think we're one the most talented individuals. I'm sorry if I made you think that way. May be, you've met the wrong bunch of students in the course, which gives you the false impression. I'm in company with students who are frustrated to find out that they're not worth much as soon as they're churned out from the Institute as a member. They're disappointed, not because they expect a payscale of 7 figures, they're not delusional, they're disappointed because, for instance, setting up a practice becomes a distant dream, not many Companies show up in the Campus, and the ones that do, don't offer much, both in monetary terms and career-wise.

In fact. You derailed from the very question I posed and went on bashing Chartered Accountants from the outset of your argument, which, I believe is a rather pessimistic approach.

My only contention is, ICAI should help and assist fresh Chartered Accountants, who are otherwise unable to find work, early-on in their career. Your line of thinking suggests, a talented, energetic individual would get work from Day 1, and people would have a "bright-individual radar" they'll be carrying to spot the fresh Chartered Accountant. Now that's humorous. I reiterate. I don't mean that CAs just sit down and rely on ICAI for the rest of their lives, but they could expect the least bit of assistance.

Give them an opportunity. An initial boost, would mean a scheme. Like I've already mentioned, ICAI won't be responsible for their whole career, and it would depend on the individual in his/her entirety, but an opportunity, in the form of a kickstart.

And apart from that, your whole argument is nothing but a set of ruthless pessimism, which isn't quite the constructive discussion I'm looking for. 

 

And you end with focussing on exams, studies & future. Well, if you know there's nothing at the end of the road, how much of a motivation will you have to travel through the road?

 

Cheers,
Sam

We just deserve one assistance from ICAI....... please give genuine results without any manipulation. If we fail, the ICAI should be genuinely concerned. We are always blamed for our failures by ICAI. Although the Institute never bothers to give proper remedy for failing students. Rest........ we will carve our own careers........ as we are capable.......just make us CAs.

Well i just came accross this post and i know its been 9 months since this was posted and i am too late to respond. I just wanted to say, i strongly agree with SamTK. 

 

I recently started my practice, and feel the necessity for that initial push.

 

Regards

Pavan

Well i just came accross this post and i know its been 9 months since this was posted and i am too late to respond. I just wanted to say, i strongly agree with SamTK. 

 

I recently started my practice, and feel the necessity for that initial push.

 

Regards

Pavan


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