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SANYAM ARORA (“It's hard to beat a person who never gives up.”)     19 September 2011

Big 4's - do they create a better CA ? A big question

Hey friends - A Very Good evening to all the members of CCI Family.

Friends Today I am here to discuss a very vital topic for all of us i.e

                                                "  BIG 4'S - Do they create a Better CA ?  A Big QUESTION ".

Friends After passing the group 1 of IPCC, the first question that comes in the mind of students is " what to do and which firm to choosse " and in a hurry many of us take a wrong decesion and we regret the whole of your life.

This is a very important decesion which can make or Ruin our life. So as a part of " ERNST & YOUNG ", I Think i can be a great guide to all of you. 

So lets go for it my friends -

Introduction -

First of all for better understanding of students following are counted in the BIG 4'S -

PWC ( Price Water House Coper Limited ), EY ( ERNST YOUNG ), KPMG and Delloitte.

These are very Reputed firms in terms of CA'S. I Know its really difficult to get selected in these firms because of their strict selection procedures. But once you get selected, your life will change my friend. Being a pary of EY for last 7 months, i have undergone a lots and lots of changes. I See a new sanyam now. I Can talk to clients in a very pleasant manner and my English has also improved a lot.

So there are many things which i want to share with all of you. So lets start the discussion -

Advantages of being in BIG 4'S -

1. Immense knowledge -

By working with big 4's You become specialised in the area you have chosen. They provide you the best of the knowledge they can. Personally speaking i have learned a lot in the area of Indirect Taxation which i share with all of you. So its better to be a part of Big 4's ( ONE POINT ).

2. Big Clients -

Another vital aspect of BIG 4'S is that they provide an oppurtunity  to work on big clients. I will share with you all my personal experience. The cliets i work on are " BMW, SAMSUNG, RICOH, etc. When i visit these clients i see how life works. You get to know how professional works  and their behaviour is too oosum. Whenevr i visit these places i used to learn something new as well as it is called " Relation building ". I Get to meet the seniour manager of SAMSUNG, so by visiting their place, you make a new contact which can help you in the future.

3. Trainings - 

BIG 4'S also provide various tranings on the part in which you are not techanically strong. This is called " Becoming a bright Professinal ".  Like what i got from EY is folowing trainigs -

(a) Communication skills

(b) PMDP

(c)  Performance councelle and many more.

4.Professionalisom - 

The most vital part of being In BIG 4'S is you learn the each and every aspect of being a professional. While working with the professionals you learn a lot. 

For example - How to behave, sit, eat, speak and when to speak and when not too .......!!!!! 

And also how to manage pressure can only be learn by working with BIG 4'S and Medium firms.

5. Monetary Terms - 

I Know its not an important aspect in the learning stage, but when an inten gets the best he will provide the best to the firm. Thats the only reason the BIG 4'S pay the highest stipend.

6. After CA -

The best part of working with Big 4's is that they recruit you as and when you become a CA and will pay you more in comparison to newly hired CA's. 

So these were some important aspects which i wanted to bring in front of you all. 

I think its much to make you all satisfied for tring in BIG 4'S. 

So never be afraid to try in BIG 4'S as it is said that " Mehnat karne vaalo ko he manzil prapt hote hai..........!!!!!!

Thanks & Regards

Sanyam Arora



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Akash

Akash (CA Final Article Assistant)     19 September 2011

Wonderful Post Bro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Ankit Gupta

Ankit Gupta (Learner)     19 September 2011

THANK YOU FOR SHARING SUCH A VITAL INFORMATION WITH US. IT'LL SURELY WOULD GOING TO HELP A LOT (BOTH FOR INTERNSHIP PURPOSE AND NEWLY QUALIFIED PROFESSIONALS)!

NICE POST.. 
 

CAN YOU PLEASE GIVE US SOME NEGATIVE PONITS/ OTHER POINTS ALSO WHICH SHOULD BE TAKEN CARE OF WHILE JOINING A BIG4 FIRM ! 

REGARDS

ANKIT

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SANYAM ARORA

SANYAM ARORA (“It's hard to beat a person who never gives up.”)     19 September 2011

Originally posted by : ANKIT

THANK YOU FOR SHARING SUCH A VITAL INFORMATION WITH US. IT'LL SURELY WOULD GOING TO HELP A LOT (BOTH FOR INTERNSHIP PURPOSE AND NEWLY QUALIFIED PROFESSIONALS)!

NICE POST.. 
 

CAN YOU PLEASE GIVE US SOME NEGATIVE PONITS/ OTHER POINTS ALSO WHICH SHOULD BE TAKEN CARE OF WHILE JOINING A BIG4 FIRM ! 

REGARDS

ANKIT

Sure bro i will provide - Actually thats my next article..............!!!!!!!!!

so please wait for it....!!!!!!

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Karan Teli

Karan Teli (Life Is just an Illusion...!!)     19 September 2011

Gr8 one sanyam but i feel that BIG 4`s only give us an exposure which is to be handled in a very bookish sense..,

Bookish sense needs to be interpretted as JAISA HE WAISA HE KARO and YE JAANANE KI KOSHISH BHE MAT KARO KI AAPNE YE KASIE KIYA HE..,

Medium firms teach us how to manage funds by turning black money into white and vice versa ( can say as anna hazare`s effect - Experineced).

Ye toh BIG 4`s me sekhne ko milta nahi...,

i agree with all your points and the gr8 exposure we get in these firms but this is also another part of the coin..,

Thanks for such a gr8 share..,

(Bura mat manna, this are my views expressed - I`m sorry if u are hurted)

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SANYAM ARORA

SANYAM ARORA (“It's hard to beat a person who never gives up.”)     19 September 2011

Originally posted by : Karan Teli

Gr8 one sanyam but i feel that BIG 4`s only give us an exposure which is to be handled in a very bookish sense..,

Bookish sense needs to be interpretted as JAISA HE WAISA HE KARO and YE JAANANE KI KOSHISH BHE MAT KARO KI AAPNE YE KASIE KIYA HE..,

Medium firms teach us how to manage funds by turning black money into white and vice versa ( can say as anna hazare`s effect - Experineced).

Ye toh BIG 4`s me sekhne ko milta nahi...,

i agree with all your points and the gr8 exposure we get in these firms but this is also another part of the coin..,

Thanks for such a gr8 share..,

(Bura mat manna, this are my views expressed - I`m sorry if u are hurted)

Bro i am not all hurted but actualyy i will like to thank you for sharing your view.......!!!!!!!

You are my bro, so how can i get hurted by your talks, this point i will surely cover in my next post....!!!!

Karan Teli

Karan Teli (Life Is just an Illusion...!!)     19 September 2011

Thanks for taking my words postively....!!

ramya.s

ramya.s (IPCC student)     19 September 2011

thanks for sharing, its really worth....

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Awesome post bro..!! Well i need some advice. I have a reference in both ey and deloitte . He was a ex- deloitte . I cleared my ipcc 1st group in may 2011. Now i am looking for articleship . The thing with ey is he is saying there is no vacancy right now. And in deloitte i went for the interview with the manager, they selected me and said now i will have another interview with senior manager and asked me to refine your knowledge on idt . it has been 2 weeks now and i dont knw when they will call me for another interview. The manager with whom i had my interview is saying to him (reference) that she had already forwarded my c.v to sr. Manger. And its up to him. And in ey i have 2 different references but they both work there as c.a . I don't have a reference with any partner so it's still not confirm whether i will be selected or not. Now 31st oct is still far but i want to know what should i do if i still do not get in deloitte by 31st oct. Should i delay my final attempt and join ey or deloitte after nov . I am already late as it was my second attempt of ipcc and i just secured passing marks . I really want to get into big 4.
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SANYAM ARORA

SANYAM ARORA (“It's hard to beat a person who never gives up.”)     19 September 2011

Originally posted by : Rishabh
Awesome post bro..!! Well i need some advice.
I have a reference in both ey and deloitte . He was a ex- deloitte . I cleared my ipcc 1st group in may 2011.
Now i am looking for articleship . The thing with ey is he is saying there is no vacancy right now. And in deloitte i went for the interview with the manager, they selected me and said now i will have another interview with senior manager and asked me to refine your knowledge on idt . it has been 2 weeks now and i dont knw when they will call me for another interview. The manager with whom i had my interview is saying to him (reference) that she had already forwarded my c.v to sr. Manger. And its up to him. And in ey i have 2 different references but they both work there as c.a . I don't have a reference with any partner so it's still not confirm whether i will be selected or not. Now 31st oct is still far but i want to know what should i do if i still do not get in deloitte by 31st oct. Should i delay my final attempt and join ey or deloitte after nov . I am already late as it was my second attempt of ipcc and i just secured passing marks . I really want to get into big 4.

Dear Rishab,

I have posted this post for all of you, so that you all should clear your mind regarding BIG 4'S. See if you will ask my view point i will definately say to wait and join ey because my friend did the same and he is a rank holder and he still waited for ey. so its upto you now what you have to do.

Regards

Sanyam

Mansha Tutlani

Mansha Tutlani (Student)     19 September 2011

Useful post !!

Thank you Sanyam  

SANYAM ARORA

SANYAM ARORA (“It's hard to beat a person who never gives up.”)     19 September 2011

Thanks a lot everyone......!!!!!1

May god bless you all........!!!!!

@ ! @

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CA Akshay Kumar Mishra

CA Akshay Kumar Mishra (Chartered Accountant )     19 September 2011

very usefull post

.. thanks for sharing ur experience with us..:) 

* Krishna *

* Krishna * (CA Student)     19 September 2011

Hi Sanyam:


First of all thank you for sharing your practical experiences in Big4's. From many long months, I was thinking in my mind why members of CCI working in Big4's are not sharing their personal experiences or practical difficulties that exists in Big4. I have seen very handful persons who earlier thrown some light on Big4's work and its problems. Today with your detailed descripttion of all the practical situations, I was satisfied with your initiative to share with others.

 

Anyways, good write-up with suitable photographs and we wish you to keep continuing your further experiences in a way of series. Definitely this post helps a lot to others. Why don't you also mention the various stages/levels of interview that you have undergone, so that others will have some more clarity to assess and prepare themselves for each stage of interview. If possible you can also include the stipend details for 3-year period, frequency of outstation audits and discuss about the leaves issue after joining Big4, so that it gives a complete picture to all the needy. Anyway you made a new mark by sharing your Big4 experiences. All the best.

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