Why students are attracted towards Dummy Articles

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]the ca's r worst persons ever seen by me in means of punctuality

THE LOGIC IS SIMPLE.............

STUDENTS GET ATTRACTED TO DUMMY ARTICLES BECAUSE THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF CA'S OUT THERE TO GIVE DUMMY TO STUDENTS....

So instead of blaming the students.. the institute should  educate the CA's on the issue..

Because of this E mail ID what we students are doing instead of coming together we are fighting among each other due to jeolousy making complain each other. Where a student is seing by takinh dummy he can get Rs. 10 lakh in starting and by regular he will be going to get hardly Rs 3 or 4 lakh.

He will go for dummy. Doesn't institute knew that 50% of student taking coaching in Superwizz are dummy. Most of rank holder comes for here.

Moreover when tomorrow u go for job no one is going to ask that from where u did article and what client u did.

Mayank....can u please mention the source from where you got these salary statistics.

Who told u that people who pass in 3rd or 4th attempt from big 4 get only 3-4 lakh?  Who told u that dummy articles get 10 lakhs?

Who says that number of attempts or ranks is the only thing which matters in getting a good pay?

And one more thing, tomorrow, when you will qualify, you will definitely be asked where you have done articleship from and what clients u did. Work experience and passion beats any educational qualification.

And its not that if you get into big 4 clearing in first attempt becomes difficult? Why do u feel so? So many people from big 4 have got ranks. Infact if u see the rank holders list for november, u wil see that rank 1 ca final is from big 4!!! Im aware of hundreds of students from big 4 getting ranks in pcc / final.

Krunal

This is truth of MNC regarding pay scale ask any of your senior what they prefer. 1 person getting rank from BIG 4 doesn't mean everyone will get. BIG 4 comprises of hardly 2or 3% of total article student. Why u see one person getting rank see other hundred of person whos articles get finished but didn't clear exam. Seeing hundred of person in big 4 getting rank means 10 years. The person working in BIG4 who is rank holder doesn't mean he got rank by working their he had joined after clearing final remember P2 rule do not confuse with PCC. 99% rank holder are from small CA firms who makes a balance between practical as well as theoritical exposure. If u dont know let me tell u Superwizz produced maximum no. of rank holder and their is no student of BIG 4 as it will not give u 6 month leave.I have seen my senior with not much practical exposure cleared in 1 st attempt and join in good CA firm for 1 year ang go in industry. I understood u r working in a BIG4 or have a craze for it and till now u didn't got PCC attempt.

agree....

See source is no where published but when u see in recrutment what is highest and lowest salary given and to whom students.

I think u all think that

if a person does not clear in first attempt but from good CA firm and other student from average or low firm but clear in 1 st attempt. Then 1st attempt person will be given preference not to that person who is in good firm but does not clear in 1st attempt. Think like this if only BIG4 firm student have good  carrier then why does the institute will bring the rule of ristriction on transfer of article inspite of the fact that nearly 97% students are not from big firms. Consider Superwiz coaching centre student they r not from big firm as they won't give that much leave to attend classes.

Rank holder join big4 after clearing final as they have 9 month article left that doesn't mean they got rank by doing articleship in such firms.

If articleship is so benefitial than tell me why CPT result is nearly 35% while PCC both group in not even 5%.

I'm 100% agree with this view..

hey mayank its not all about clearing the entire CA in a single attempt.

today wen u go to any company for an nterview they look after so many aspects like ur personality, behaviour, IQ, etc though your education is a very important part.

I am sorry but you ve a wrong notion that by doing dummy people are going to get Rs. 10 lakhs. please do mention the source from where you got such figures ya!

Mayank,

It is not about anyone's craze. Working in big 4 has its own pros and cons just like its the case with small firms. Its not one person who has got a rank from big 4, but there are hundreds of them. In Nov 08, from my firm itself, there are approx 50 students (final + PCC).

Big 4, obviously will comprise only 2-3% of total students. It cannot accomodate more than that anyways.

I agree that people who clear in first attempt, with ranks have an edge over others. But there is no law in any constitution which says that a 2nd or 3rd attempt cannot get more than rankers.

You have found out about the students from this coaching classes...I advise you find out about the alumni of big 4. There are lot of people who have passed out from big 4, cleared in 2nd and 3rd attempt and today quite a lot of them are the Directors, CFO's and VP's of some of the biggest groups of our country. Infact, I have observed that even those people from big 4 who did not become CAs are doing very well, some of them have become the VPs of top companies of our country.

I never said that only big 4 students have a good career. If someone feels so, its wrong, its a myth. Just like first attempt and rank gives advantage over others, big 4 is also an advantage in terms of work experience and brand name, both of which matter as much as all other things do.

PCC and CPT are just uncomparable. Zameen aur asman ka farak hai. You said that PCC pass % is 5%, then what about remaining 95% people who fail? Are they all from big 4? Are they all doing regular articleship? No Sir, definitely not. The 95% of the people includes people from big 4, small firms and those form dummy as well. The reason of failure could be luck, lack of efforts or something else. Similarly, there are many rankholders from big 4, small firms, mid size firms and off course those unfortunate students doing dummy articleship. Passing or failing in the exams is a different issue and it cannot be correlated to articleship.

I hope this inspires many students from big 4 and even outside big 4.

Wishing you all good luck.

they opted For Dummy so that they can earn Handsome Pay & don't need to Obey Stupid Adive & Inturctions OF Principal CA.....and more Important to Be "HAPPY"

while taking dummy how is it possible to earn a handsome pay wen u dnt ve ne info regarding he wrk dn as an article assistant?

students are attracted to Dummy because they hav never been to office and they restrict the change in their life to move to office culture leaving behind the fun, frds group, classes.

Upto a mark I must say parents also involve in dummy for their lovely-cuttie child. they dont want them to go harsh during articleship..\\

Even I hav seen CAs giving dummy articleship to their ward and even guiding their relatives to go for dummy and study hard to clear the papaers, they suggest them that clearing paper a only sole and main motive...

I agree that taking total dummy is wrong. Every firm partner is not same. Some firms r their which give their articles 5 to 6 month leave for PCC and the office timing r also not more than 7 Hrs. daily. But on the other side some firms r also their whose article timing r 12 hrs daily and doesn,t allow to attend coaching also and after that also they give exam leave for 1 or 2 month only. If such r office timing then student require around 6 month leave for PCC and 7 to 8 month leave for final.

While their r such student also who know getting leave is very difficult they register dummy and then work as paid for practical experiance and regine before 6 month of PCC and around 10 to 11 month before final like that they get practical exposure also for 2 year and get time to study also.

In the previous rule of P2 student work regular for 1 year then take dummy so they get 1 year for final preparation and after that again join good firm for remaining 1 year and get 2 year experiance also.

Same with some changes is being followed by student in PCC rule also.

If they do in such a way then dummy seems to be justified.

Some students r lucky who get in a firm whose partner behaviour is good while some r their who keeps on insulting student every where, they r even told to clean the office, submission of electricity, telephone bill of boss, go in the market from shop to shop search for better plan for phone, pick & drop his friends, keep on insulting student because of different language, caste.

R these the work of article student. No one knows before joining any firm how is the behaviour of boss. If such a bad behaviour then he/she can take transfer but as per naw rule restriction on transfer what the the student will do if he get register in such a firm. This rule is also incouraging dummy.