Story of two rankers(real one); exposes ICAI somewhat

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There were two students in our coaching institute. The first one a boy, Mr X had by a hair lenght cleared his PE1 and CA-PE2; and the gal  Y had passed the two exams with ease and good marks. The difference was that X didn't attend any coaching class.

X joined articleship after PE2; and worked as a semi dummy(75% genuine). He used to work with diligence and he was also lucky to have a kind and understanding Principal; who didn't let him in any manner whether it was in gaining practical  knowledge. Suppose in situations like "there is monotonous work; and his exams are coming near or his coaching classes were gonna conduct imp lectures; he would let him go without him asking him twice or giving any explanation. He also gave him proper leave(more than 3 months).

Miss Y worked in another firm near X's office. It was a CA who knew Y , who told me about this entire story. One day, a call came from Y's office client where she had gone for audit. "Sir, if you are not changing the audit team, i am gonna change the auditor.". frightened, her CA asked,"Why?" Client said," That gal; she is doing nakhraa and making hue and cry about a Rs 20 vouchers; which we have made ourselves. When we ask that this is proper, she says,"Our sir at class says that external evidences are always reliable than int. evidence." Her CA called her back and happily gave her holiday for finals.This gal then rarely attended office.This was a case of total book-rotting.

Then came Finals. Both became rankersin 2004-06(to protect identity). Y got rank btw 5-12 and X got rank btw 25-32. So their starting package were different. Y had a starting package of 7 -8.5 lacs in leading FMCG giant; X got starting salary of 3.5-4.5 lacs.

At end of 08-2009; Y 's salary was almost double to 13 lacs pa. But her work descripttion and responsibility remained same. X's salary was 50+ lacs and he had rose to second in position of his employer company. He left the compnay and has gone to East Asia to work for a leading renowned Investment banking co. and he is earning in dollars.He isn't even 25 yet.

What's the moral of the story?

Is that true that doing 3 and half years of same tikcing of purchase-sales voucher and filing ITR 1-5 the way of being successful?

Experience matters.Book-rotting doesn't help much. But a source of getting experience has been trampled by ICAI; they banned transfer. Getting secondment is also hard. Who will give practical knowledge to an article who will work there for 3-4 months and go back to his old employer(employer won't let him go for more than 5 months)

What's the moral of story?

 

Replies (30)

hmmm Jose,

No one can say that the person whohad done self study is much more brilliant than a student attending classe.s & Vice versa is also true.Its all about how far u can go to achieve ur ambition, ur presentation skill, intelligence level, overall personality, hard woek & level of dedication & sincerity that matters...& at the same time luck too should b with u...

Yes, u r right that to some extent, vouching & filling ITR forms are not the only thing to learn..but for going high, ur base should b strong...Yes, articleship definitely helps u to strenghten ur knowledge base..but as said it has some limitations also...Like, u wud not get all kind of work exposure to experience with...but then it should not let u think that article is worthless...

Regards,

Manasvi

Hey its great one man, realy awesome..If someone have dedication and confidence can do it like this.....thanks for sharing man.................

onlydedication and confidence in achieving as well as practicing the profession can take us to heights.i want to say something to jose.the members of ICAI are not at all concerned with practical training or exposure to students.they only want servants at a cheaper rate.what they want is power of being an auditor and the status

 Yeah. Lot of qualified CA s are there without knowing subject. My boss - He will not do any work - be it defered tax calculation or any other tax related - interpretation related work. He doesnt know many things. If I ask any doubts, he will act very well as if he knows. But some how he will say me to manage my self. He wont even question what work I have done and how I have done calculations. But if I made mistakes like margin adjustment in print out or slight change in format of statement of taxable income, he will make a big issue as if I have comitted a fraud like satyam scam.

Interesting..............

NIce

Nice Post Jose

Self study is most importants than a taking classes

Agree with the approach of self study... and the story is really awesome. thanks for posting.
Originally posted by :Kingsley
"  Yeah. Lot of qualified CA s are there without knowing subject. My boss - He will not do any work - be it defered tax calculation or any other tax related - interpretation related work. He doesnt know many things. If I ask any doubts, he will act very well as if he knows. But some how he will say me to manage my self. He wont even question what work I have done and how I have done calculations. But if I made mistakes like margin adjustment in print out or slight change in format of statement of taxable income, he will make a big issue as if I have comitted a fraud like satyam scam. "

Most of the practising CA's are like that cant help it buddy...

Good post! By doing self study we can learn many new things which may not be taught in class. We can learn and correct our mistakes. So some sought of self study is always necessary. Thanks!

Nice one thanks for sharing

Nice one thanks

 

Nice one Jose.. May this reduce the increasing spoon feeding which is happening  among the CA students. But again attitude of the students also matters a lot. Gaining of knowledge and its apt application to practical situations should be the driving moto of every students, rather than swallowing blindly what is written in the books/coaching manuals


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