Easy entry difficult exit in CA ?

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What do you think about the Institutes policy of "easy entry and difficult exit" ?

Dont this mean that Institute is liable to ruin all those who are unable to clear final stage, either single or both groups?

Wouldnt it be better, if entry level be decider for a students career. Let it be very tough and let institute take all the creamy layer at that very level, and free other students from undue hardships!!!

Guys my personal view is that at the end of the day CA is just a normal study of finance and is infact very less logical than any sort of rocket science. Any one can clear it by hard work. But what all is making it so important is the hardships faced by students who repeatedly fail and after 5-6 attempt clear it. This is no sort of importance or goodwill of a subject as it is ruining total career and life of those students who fail at last stage.

Policy should be such that first of all filter students who are capable of coping that level, which a CA should have, and then polishing him upto such level of mastery, to get diamonds.

 

thanks

anubhav

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Yes, I definitely agree with this. There's a clear need to make the entrance test tougher so that those who are not upto the level are not made to waste their result. Many students clear CPT and a lot of them end up losing valuable time fighting for IPCC and they eventually lose out on other opportunities.

Whenever student decide that he want to make his career as CA. He should go through what would be needed to become so. What hurdles he'll be going to face! 

Next about the easy entry and difficult exit... I think this is is just like video games level.. When you enter the easy one pass it you have to go in advance.. When we pass such difficult level then only we become winner.. I don't think so that there is any wrong in system... Its not like engineering and doctory, where you get  hard pressure that you must top.. Even you just pass you can become Ca.. Right?

Then why so worries.. Just go through them like games... Haar jeet toh chalti rehti.. Attempts lage toh kuch sikhne ko hi milega na... Hum bich me quit kar jayenge.. kya matlab... Khelna hai toh pura khelna hai... varna ni khelna hai.... Be warrior.. Ek yodha ya khiladi ki soch rakhenge toh hume kabhi aisa ni lagega ki yeh kaisa system hai... Hume tab sirf apni unaati nazar  ayegi har level ko paar karne ke baad... 

Best wishes

Urvashi

Dear anubhav,

No professional course can you give you a job guarantee future. its upto your talent, determination and hardwork . if a company pay you 3 lak per month , they will make a profit of 5 lakh from you.gone are the days when we say ca where we get respect. morever , once we a pass a profession doesnt makes a professional in us . lot of things we have to develop ourself ( i mean in general including me) 

Regards,

RAJESH CHOUDHARY

good discussion. You are right CA course or finance like MBA are not great rocket sciences but just dependent on governments varried policies.

Invariablt corporate just use you to end in their profits in the financial year and use you to pay least possible taxes in Assessment year that is all.All kinds of inancialstandards are oriented to relevant governments zig zag taxation policies and incidentally you are better known as taxation accountant not as CA like every MBA becomes some manager and these managings only to show your skills as to how use the great government policies. So every financial year you just see finance budgets of governments that is the great work and you apply yourself with that as also see what tax rules are alive and you have to work with that and if you just that you are not very much needed by corporate world, as you are just another accountant lie a B.Com. But if you are able to manipulate then you are needed unlike in technology and sciences as they manipulate every corporate or all so called governments.

You know so far there is no manual every year prepared by finance ministries of direct and indirect taxes which can help you what is the correct interpretation of the so called tax laws. So every man pays taxes is just cheated either of the ignorance or out of great skill of tax collectors as AOs and the like and that way every year so many unnecessary harassments of tax payers and why are also get harassed. That way unnecessary wasteful expenditure both tax payer as also governments commit for unnecessary litigations and that gulp courts time besides so called adjudication machinery of the departments. This means courts time gets eclipsed and courts cannot have time to dispose of genuine substantial issues under substantial general laws.

So as you said it is some kind of wastage of time mechanism that eclipses you and every participant.

You if find this is not your cup of tea better quit after having lost so many years and move to another useful field where you have talent that no god can stop you.

Further remember  no tax principle and no public policy has any time value but they are just cleeting with time and that gets lost in the current of pcean of time!

Never worry if you had lost time and better quit so that you save your further time loss of yours, that is all friend 

I dont Think So, Now a Days Any One is Stucking in Final or Inter, Every one is Getting Pass Either in first or third attempt.

Those who are not studing at all, they will not pass, not to bother for that.

My point was not about value of ca course, it was all about those students who lose hope at the last stage, after several attempts. Dont you think that after investing so many years and hardwork into ca course a student be given some sort of assurance regarding his future? I through my post comparing a ca selection pattern wid dat of MBA , which has CAT in it, which if i am not wrong divide students to their level and den afterward student choose their respective colleges and become mba for sure in two years. In dat period they take training and acclamate themselves to the market conditions. Unlike ca in which an avg student thinks it to be a hurdle clearing levels, whereas entering was a mere joke. Thats y i posted d topic, but some how i was misunderstood by some of d friends. At d end i would just wish that there be some policy change by icai so that the entry be somehow be more strict and advanced. Thanks anubhav
Dear CA Ayush Aggarwal Its not about failing and re attempting. Its about the setup,policies,fairness. Why only in CA and UPSC ppl need attempts, and they feel stuck in between. Why is this not in MBA? Coz of their policies which are student oriented.

INSTITUTE WILL NEVER MAKE ENTRY DIFFICULT.. THEY ARE MONEY MAKING MACHINES THESE DAYS..

IF ENTRY IS DIFFICULT INSTITUTE WILL GET LESSER STUDENTS, MEANS LESS MONEY..

NOW CA COURSE IS VERY EASY TO GET THROUGH... EVEN ENTRY AS WELL AS EXIT, EVERYONE IS PASSING ONE ATTEMPT OR IN THE NEXT ATTEMPT. 

LOT OF COACHING CENTRES ARE POPPING UP IN THE NOOK AND CORNERS OF VERY CITY.. 

SINCE THE RESULTS ARE VERY LIBERAL , THE COACHING CENTRES ARE FLOURISHING, MORE PEOPLE ARE JOINING THIS COURSE

IT IS BECOMING JUST LIKE A ENGINEERING OR MBA DEGREE..

END RESULT - NO JOBS, 

SALARY REDUCED TO 20K EVEN SOME PEOPLE WORKING FOR AS LOW AS 10K TO 15K

WHAT HAPPENED TO ENGINEERING PROFESSION AND MBA IS HAPPENING NOW TO CA..

SEE THE IPCC PAPERS = PLUS TWO STANDARD..

PATHETIC

 

 

Dear anubhav

According to me degree is important at the same time  talent , determination and hardwork are also required to be become anything in life. as far as ca is concered  I was not aware of this course earliar

since very few ca were there now  there are  going to increase more ca in market because of easy entry

there are many student now enrolling for ca who are from commerece stream and other stream.

Anubhav, dont worry It is correspondence degree  one wont have to clear entrance test to clear it . It is totally depend on effort and hard work that will pay this degree

 According to Anand 

One  should not  enroll for CA who has told you that CAs are earning 20k per month.

 

 

 

MR SUNIL DONT COMMENT UNLESS YOU ARE A CA FRESHER.. 

ASK ANY CA FRSHERS TODAY.. I KNOW MANY PEOPLE WORKING FOR 15 K..

 

WHAT I MEANT TO SAY IS ICAI IS NOT MAINTAINING THE STANDARD WHICH WAS SHOWN YEARS BACK...

 

 

Everything boils down to interest. Especially one when studying a course he or she needs to stand outstanding. That is possible when you keep yourself from what i will get  in terms of money that will not help any real professional. Godd professional is one who has value to him whatever the economy is or employment market is, my dear friends. So really zero in on value adition in any study, as there is n othing called this is great or that is great study, is it not ?

if you want to get ca information and question papers then please check out my site https://www.rupakgoudel.com.np/ 

The truth of life is well taken care of by the institutes policies what ever they are,

the only professional education body that has no discrimination for entry i.e very good marks 

for eligibility or only students of a particular stream can only join.

besides every thing  about passing critaria and the challenges in the course are known at 

time of registeration

 

Originally posted by : Chirag Ramesh Shah

The truth of life is well taken care of by the institutes policies what ever they are,

the only professional education body that has no discrimination for entry i.e very good marks 

for eligibility or only students of a particular stream can only join.

besides every thing  about passing critaria and the challenges in the course are known at 

time of registeration

 

sir do you know that institute slash or hike result on d basis of demand of ca's in market. What does you conclude from that? Please let me know?


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