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CA Nagma Ansari (none)     29 August 2010

Best Conversation ever...dont miss a single word!!

  *An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem science has with God, The Almighty. He asks one of his new students to stand and.....*

*Prof:* So you believe in God?

*Student:* Absolutely, sir.

*Prof:* Is God good?

*Student:* Sure.

*Prof:* Is God all-powerful?

*Student:* Yes.

*Prof:* My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn't. How is this God good then? Hmm?
*(Student is silent.)*

*Prof:* You can't answer, can you? Let's start again, young fella. Is God good?

*Student:* Yes.

*Prof:* Is Satan good?

*Student:* No.

*Prof:* Where does Satan come from?

*Student:* From...God...

*Prof:* That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?

*Student:* Yes.

*Prof:* Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything. Correct?

*Student:* Yes.

*Prof:* So who created evil?

*(Student does not answer.)*

*Prof: *Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness?All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they?

*Student:* Yes, sir.

*Prof:* So, who created them?
*(Student has no answer.)*

*Prof:* Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son...Have you ever seen God?

*Student:* No, sir.

*Prof:* Tell us if you have ever heard your God?

*Student:* No, sir.

*Prof:* Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God? Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter?

*Student:* No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.

*Prof:* Yet you still believe in Him?

*Student:* Yes.

*Prof:* According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?

*Student:* Nothing. I only have my faith.

*Prof:* Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has.

*Student:* Professor, is there such a thing as heat?

*Prof:* Yes.

*Student:* And is there such a thing as cold?

*Prof:* Yes.

*Student:* No sir. There isn't.
*(The lecture theater becomes very quiet with this turn of events.)
*
*Student:* Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don't have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold .. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy . Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it .
*(There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theater.)*


*Student:* What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?

*Prof:* Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?

*Student:* You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flaashing light....But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? In reality, darkness isn't. If it were you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?

*Prof:* So what is the point you are making, young man?

*Student:* Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.

*Prof:* Flawed? Can you explain how?

*Student:* Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing.. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor.Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?

*Prof:* If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.

*Student:* Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?
*(The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going.)
*
*Student:* Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?
*(The class is in uproar.)*

*Student:* Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor's brain?
*(The class breaks out into laughter.)*

*Student:* Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain,sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?
*(The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable.)*

*Prof:* I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.


*Student:* That is it sir... The link between man & god is FAITH . That is all that keeps things moving & alive.



 63 Replies

CA. Arijit Mukherjee

CA. Arijit Mukherjee (International Accounting - Citrix R&D India)     29 August 2010

marvellous!

himanshu

himanshu (student)     29 August 2010

hey g8 one

just damn good

couldnt stop myself from appreciating it , really good one

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Durgalakshmi V

Durgalakshmi V (Articled Assistant)     29 August 2010

Additional Info: That student in the convo is none other than Dr.APJ Abdul Kalam , the former 



president of India 
... 

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Nirav

Nirav (Chartered Accountant)     29 August 2010

awesome..!!!

Suman

Suman (CA FINAL)     29 August 2010

Thanks for Sharing Nagma Ansari.:-)

Thanks to Durgalakshmi too for giving additional info.:-)

Amar Kumar

Amar Kumar (CA Final , Intern )     29 August 2010

The conversation was good but it was tooooooo long .......... i felt bored :( . . . :)

Ayyswariya RG

Ayyswariya RG (Knowledge Seeker)     29 August 2010

AWESOME

Mayank

Mayank (Sr.Accountant)     29 August 2010

Very well written........

Bopanna U T

Bopanna U T (FA)     29 August 2010

nice one. thanks for sharing

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(Guest)

GOOD ONE...

Venkat M

Venkat M (FCA)     29 August 2010

Nice one.

CA Sumit Arora

CA Sumit Arora (CA)     29 August 2010

Awesome..........

CA  SURENDRA  KUMAR  RAKHECHA

CA SURENDRA KUMAR RAKHECHA (Practising CA at Surat)     29 August 2010

 

A rare one, an eye opener and exceptional one. 

 

 

Thanks for sharing.

 

 

Thank God that the young student could prove that God exists.

 

 

I wish to share my views :

 

 

Although the issue has been discussed in length in Indian philosophy  but still people don't behave what they were taught  in their childhood. 

 

 

Those who are dishonest, liars and unfaithful to human being; don't not believe in God.  Those who wish to make gains by cheating others; are not believing in God. Although one can see them at temples, gurudwaras, church, mosques etc., but their daily life is full of unfair deeds. 

 

 

God lives in self. It is my belief.

 

 

In Hinduism, "Aham Brahasmi" has been quoted many times.

 

 

In simple language;  every time; if a  person  dares  to say like this, requires to ask himself constantly whether he can say himself as a God. If yes, no need to go anywhere to find God and to prove his existence. 

 

 

The approach is rare one and regular meditation is required to feel like such. At this stage; a person would be free from all influences of various religions !! 


 

 

 

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CA  SURENDRA  KUMAR  RAKHECHA

CA SURENDRA KUMAR RAKHECHA (Practising CA at Surat)     29 August 2010

 

One more thing; recently I have noticed that many institutions claim them as "TRUTH FINDING INSTITUTIONS." For general category persons; it might  be good  to know something about it. But if one asks the basic question about it; it looks funny.  

 

Those who know the "Truth", never require to form such institutions. It is my viewpoint about the Truth.  Like God, what is the Truth; cannot be find out. Still it can be followed. In a practical life; it is more useful than the use of word "GOD." 

 

As God's existence is dependent upon Faith; Truth's existence is dependent upon its actual implementation. (I am unable to write in exact terms).

 

Here basic question arises again; when a person doesn't know what is the Truth; how he will follow it ? So the Truth is also a matter of feeling.

 

Many people say that we don't believe in God. If one doesn't believe in God; it does not mean God is not there. If something is not there then why they use the word God ?


Although the matter requires a lot of discussion but briefly I can say that

"The Truth is Universal."

 

Just see my  following point :

 

Suppose one a person is a liar which is established in public also.

 

(Humour : Established Liar !) 

 

In a day; how many times he would be able to tell lie ?

 

If he is hungry;

 

Can he say : I am not hungry ? 

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