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Last attempt Below Average Student--- A REAL success story..Must Read

A learner (Corporate Accounts ) (345 Points)

19 July 2010  

Hi All,

Thought a long time ago to post this but could not..

I think if I am posting it today..then its the best time as results declared Today..

Having gone through almost all the posts related  to low results here.. I found two apprehensions in students common:

1. If forcibly ( Thouh intentioally) ICAI declares low results, then failed students are not bothered with that attitude of ICAI coz they prepared hard..they gave their best..they forego all enjoyments..they pushed it hard enough..mugged up all amendments till eleventh hour..so why THEM???   so cribbing is right.. atleast i found that justified.

2. Another apprehension is " Will i get job if could not crack in first attempt" . Problem is even though i am talented but companies wont give me a chance to sit in interview as i am not so called first attempter...  so literally ICAI just screwed their career... To an extent i found even that justified coz. students never compromised on efforts when demanded. then why THEY targetted..( I am talking about sincere students)).. AND ANYWAYS ONLY FIRST ATTEMPTERS are considered by top companies.or .atleast given a priority .. hope you all accept that

And obvoius replies ( In fact suggestions) are.. prepare hard..see the mistakes...try again..be positive..even some have pasted great articles here( I am not targetting anybody's sincere efforts on this forum..Plzz dont mind)..

MY QUESTION IS " ALL STUDENTS READING THESE ARTICLES WILL BE MOTIVATED AND WILL PREPARE AGAIN..NOW assume ALL ARE PUSHING HARD...

Do you think ICAI will pass everybody in next attempt..

again top 7 %( Intellects) or lucky 7 %...will pass only..{{{ i leave it to you to decide what matters for success as i am not going to discuss success composition here..}}}}

So again these 93% will be cribbing and will abuse ICAI..like we all doing today.. so what should we do????

Its the time to understand that Key isConsistent performance and not Consistent results and a constructive belief system....then results will automatically start becoming consistent( I dont want to preach anything so posting my friends real life story instead of heavy stuffs)))

Name : ??????

Type-------------( Average or Below average student......common  stupid man..)

Ca-Inter-- second attempt

Ca Final appeared for ist attempt ist group----- got cleared

Second attempt------ second group appeared-- 189( Failed in aggregate))

Articleship cleared after second attempt.. very funny...He was a dummy for 3 years.....But anyways officially completed..!!

joined part time office of local CA firm

One and half month leave---- third attempt--second group---aggregate 175 failed..exempted one paper....

SHATTERED... having all apprehensions mentioned above in his mind and decided to quit.... But didnot

He understood the logic that he has to be among top 7 % .. if you are then okay .. if not,,, then be the institute's favourate.. but have to prepare for sure till the time you are among top 7 or you are declared pass by institute fortunately..

He was Apprehensive while preparing that even if  he will clear in next attempt... he is already screwed by Institute( Or by himself)..i dont want to comment on success composition as i said ..

But.. take home lesson for him was “he is SCREWED UP finally( No matter by whom)..AND HAVE TO CHANGE SOMETHING( which will fetch him job..). ELSE NO BODY WILL CONSIDER HIM...value him .... or wont give respect

He told me that by that time even his parents started doubting his capabilities..

MOREOVER HE IS  DUMMY AS I MENTIONED.. so have nothing in his favour...or you can say he is destined to doom...

Again 1.5 month leave--3 exams---fourth attempt---- BINGO !!! he made it...

Happy again but again he was apprehensive....that he have to fight to get a 20000 P.M job....

because forth attempter plus dummy..great combination indeed to start a career for Chartered accountant...

After declaration of result he did not applied for 20 days anywhere ( though his articleship completed and he cant wait for campus as only GENPACT will  shortlist him there... where my friend was least interested in profile and it was a last option for him.)..so he remain seated at home..

Finally  he started hunting the job from 21st day..got calls from monster & nokri.com consultants from 25th day.. interview arranged on 28th day... Bingo...he got a job of  40000 P.M..( From a top 10 audit firm of india ))

28th day of result---- final call from a top 10 firm

33rd day from result---final call from a top 6

40th day from result--final call from a top 4

approx 45 th day from declaration of result... Institute shortlist announced FOR CAMPUS INTERVIEW...and he got ""  a SINGLE CALL""" .genpact....THANKS TO FOURTH ATTEMPT....

SO EFFECTIVELY WITHIN 25 DAYS OF starting job hunt( as he started from 21st day)....he got offers from top audit firms...

Why????????   coz he got guts to say to interview panel.. i am worth it and i can prove it if you hire me...

How he got the guts??? what he did???? how should we go about it..if unfortunatively we land up in his conditions..

SORRY!!! I already said that purpose is not to preach you my friends and its individualistic approach which worked for him .... So prepare your own plans and achieve the best..

Motive was to inform you through this real incident that life not ends here..friends.... What happened has happened..and may happen in future too..Question yourself that what extra you are doing to counter that negative impact imposed on you( If ICAI is at fault) or  impact earned by you( if prep was weak on your part). you must prepare for next attempt and balance accordingly to learn something extra..run a extramile..which will fetch you job in life and you can save your six month spoiled now..

Make a strategy to counter attack the situation..

If my friends here want ...i can talk to my friend and can post what special he did ..what was his methodology..??

But what i always feel is we should take a clue and chartout our plans accordingly and should not adapt the plans of others as it is...

Will post here his comments if you guys suggest..

Thanks a lot !!

I apologise if i hurt anybody through this post..

Regards to all

 

 


 18 Replies

soumya (Partner ) (136 Points)
Replied 19 July 2010

Thanks a lot for bringing a ray of hope in my life.

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jose.p (CA in service) (1676 Points)
Replied 19 July 2010

dummy hokar bhi icai ke placement mein icai ke naak ke niche hire hogaya? that's why i say dummy hona utna nuksandayak nahi hai if u clear ur final exams? by the way; uska starting salary aur job descripttion kya thaa?please PM me.

A learner (Corporate Accounts ) (345 Points)
Replied 19 July 2010

Thanks Soumya,

Do get in touch if i can help any of my friends here in any ways..

I remember a time when i was shattered coz i could not make it to exams then an article by CA Amit Daga( Member here) helped me to overcome stress and i bounced back at life..

Hope you will do the same..

All the best..PM me your marks and strategy ..may be i can help..to improvise

 

@ Jose Thanks dear. Details sent to your PM... Accept the friend request please..

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Praveen (Senior Accountant) (139 Points)
Replied 19 July 2010

thanks a lot sir. this is my fourth attempt. i was really disappointed . by reading  the post , i had got confidence and will definitely succeed in next attempt. thanks sir once again.

CA.Pravinchandra (Executive (F&A)) (2382 Points)
Replied 19 July 2010

really meaningfull nand worthy post sir

It will make to think  about pre and post exam straegies..

thnxs.

Lakshmy (student) (24 Points)
Replied 20 July 2010

After going through the entire msg, i could summarize that, Success is a matter of 3 things viz.

1) Determination

2) Dedication

3) Devotion

Thanks for the motivation, really worth reading

CA Usha Agrawal (Chartered Accountant) (102 Points)
Replied 20 July 2010

thanx a lot sir...this article is really very motivative....most of the things was similar to my life. I had given 3 rd attempt but could not clear.

vins@final (ca_cwa final ) (93 Points)
Replied 20 July 2010

thanks 4 posting such a real exp of ur frns..

really it is useful 4 many..

praveen suwalka (aa) (23 Points)
Replied 20 July 2010

Thnx 4 postin such a nice articl.....bt still i m confusd dat who ll tell r miseries 2 icai....

A learner (Corporate Accounts ) (345 Points)
Replied 25 July 2010

Dear All,

Thanks for the complements and my apologies for posting so late as was going hectic from last few days...( Anyways No excuses.. :):)).

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 I Discussed with my friend about what special he did to tackle( Later i got to know that he did a simple thing( NOT SPECIAL)..but did it differently.. he just thought in a different way AFTER FAILURE..

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Friends, as mentioned, That friend of mine formed a two way approach to tackle the negativity of mind as well as career downturn..

1.    He learnt some skills which proved to be helpful to him in getting Job and may remain his asets for lifetime. He developed good communication skills as most of his friends who cleared in first attempt were unsuccessful in Campus interview due to poor communicatrion skills. Apart from studies he started developing excellent finacial knowledge, knowledge about economic systems, Indian economy ( I mean he become more of job oriented rather than mere tax return filer  or ledger entry type guy..and above all developed a POSITIVE ATTITUDE & willpower  TO bOUNCE BACK..WHENever HE WILL GET HIS chance in life( Wo kehte hai na Har kisi ke din aate hai..tumhare aaj sahi..hamara kaL hoga...}.Apologies for this language but i just quoted him " as it is" here.

And Bingo this allround knowledge helped him to crack GD'S and positive attitude helped him to be mentally strong all the time when interviewers screwed him like anything.. he laughed and said that though he was a failure but failure helped him to become a hard nut to be cracked easily..even by interviewer.. he he he.. funny but absolutely true as he got guts to say in interview that" I am worthy for your organization" and he meant it..... and interviewer had to believe because of conviction in his words...as he believed what he said.

2nd Approach he followed was :

A learner (Corporate Accounts ) (345 Points)
Replied 25 July 2010

Dear All,

 

In continuation of above.....

I found one thing common in him and two thing different which helped him..

One Common thing:  All those fresh commitments after failure , a new start, new study plan, new guidances to sought, amendments collection, again 10 hours a day schedule... And i agree that its must else.. HOW WILL WE ENSURE OUR SUCCESS IN EXAMS in next attempt and he said without clearing exams all his plans , knowledge accumulation skills aquired etc..will be in vain.. "so study to karna hi hai bhai"   AS HE SAID....

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First  Different thing out of 2 : He never ever cribbed or abused ICAI for poor results and nor wasted his time in such pursuits.

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CAUTION     I am not endorsing any point here that should we crib or not...i am just posting his belief system which i found correct.. if some of my friends disagree here.. i accept their point of view as well that we should raise a voice against this ICAI..but will discuss it later....

coming to point.. he never cribbed as he cribbed in last 3 attempts and found that ICAI will do what its doing so better to prepare a counter attack and not waste time as " Yaar paas to ho hi jayyenge aj nahi to kal but kuch aisa to prepare kar le ki paas hoke fayda utha sake..logo se do kadam aage ho sake..waise hi institute ne to piche kar hi diya hai 2 kadam  ya hum khud  ho gaye..(kaan jaise marji pakad lo dard to hota hi hai BHAI"""   HE HE HE HE..His funny lines at that time.. BUT HE HAS POINT IN HIS SIMPLICITY( WHICH BECOME HIS SPECIALITY LATER)..as minding own business and not loosing focus and concentration is must to attain success in CA exams which become his speciality..

Second different thing(strategy) after declaration of result at time of interview preparation

Request you to please correlate with my very first post to understand...

A learner (Corporate Accounts ) (345 Points)
Replied 25 July 2010

After declaration of CA results: MY common stupid friend.....

As i mentioned in very first post that he started hunting for JOB only after 20 days of declaration of result and not posted resume on any job portal in between..Question is why???

  1. Was he celebrating success and was busy in giving party to us?
  2. Or Has he gone mad as finally after FOURTH attempt he got his Much awaited beautyqueen CA degree...
  3. Or was he busy in preparing Slogans against ICAI for next 20 days writing " Ab bata kya karega Institute..me to paas ho gaya""" he he he ...  Jokes apart...sorry !
  4. Or he went to Sir VED jain and Sir Amarjeet chopra's home to wake them up daily morning at five for next twenty days to show them his laminated degree Indicating " that finally he made it""

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Sorry but he did nothing absurd as i told you his Edge point was his focus..

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He stayed at home and studied for 20 days @ 12 hour a day right from second day of declaration of result..as most vacancies are there at that time..

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As he cleared his first group 2 years ago.. he revised all accounting standards as he was not in touch of same and brushed up on basics..

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then he touched base with IFRS, Corporate governance , VAT regime, GST, Direct tax code, or whatever hot topics can be.... he took a good understanding of same...

He made it a point to be prepared before going to any interview...

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Some of our friends had point of view that " as many interviews you will appear for , the more confident you will be" so never wait for preparation..just give as many interview as you can...

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But  MY FRIEND believed that if you fail in one interview your confidence and morale will touch grounds..and if for god's sake it happened thrice in a week that you got rejected in interview.. then you are finished..

So according to him better to go prepared and go selective as confidance comes from preparation and not with number of interviews... though its correct to an extent after appearing many interviews you do feel bit comfortable.. But the question for him was :

  1. Go selective and try first at top notch firms and not lower your standard initially by going everywhere
  2. Wherever go .. be prepared and utilize the crucial 20 days you got in preparation..and not waste then haywire..

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His strategies worked and His common stupidity landed him a decent job...( Starting package 4.5 - 5.5 lakh per annum).. he joined one out of 3-4 offers he got..and enjoying his work as he got profile of his choice.

I think lessons are clear my friennds..

He adapted one last  simple strategy... will get back to you soon with that.. as he didnot disussed with me in detail about that.. so better to write after i got complete facts about that..

 

My sincere apologies to anybody if i have intentionally/unintentionally hurt someone through my point of view...

All the best..  Regards.

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A learner (Corporate Accounts ) (345 Points)
Replied 25 July 2010

Thanks ..

eti (article) (28 Points)
Replied 05 November 2015

Today i was almost thinking of quitting CA but this wonderful article brought a ray of hope...thnx a lot for posting it...:)


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