Aspiring investment bankers ??

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great post for people who want to do something differently. 

well even i am one of those. After whatever experience  I've got, international CFA is best course to get into IB. one should aim for that especially because you'll find subjects somewhat similar to what you would be stduying in the finals.

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great post for people who want to do something differently. 

well even i am one of those. After whatever experience  I've got, international CFA is best course to get into IB. one should aim for that especially because you'll find subjects somewhat similar to what you would be stduying in the finals.

i agree with u yash.. go for the ca + cfa = u rule .. all other degress = fail... :-P

do keep in touch... and plz pour in ur suggesstions.....


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Originally posted by : espionage

 


when I saw Wall Street. A wild film on an ambitious young trader in the eighties in New York.

Boy, I loved that movie. 'Greed is good' is what Michael Douglas inculcated in me. 


 

 

YA!!!! GordonGEkko AKA M.Douglas had me jumping inmy seat when he calls Sheen somewhere around 2 at night n says wake up buddy...  just made couple Thousand dollars by selling gold in japanese market !!!  i Thought WTH Greed when everyone's sleeping he's minting money just by using his brain to figure out where a market other than USA can offer arbitrage ...This movies made me a fan of M.Douglas But More importantly ...that of Stock market and its diverse products as a whole..

cause quite frankly in this market, KNOWLEDGE(which only few have) IS POWER ...AND MONEY.

yes a simple thing like arbitrage can help u make money.... but this happens only in the movies yar. 

but 1 thing is rite... we have the knowledge = power = can help u compete and rise.....



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guyz..watz d scope f CAs in equity research?
 

i have seen many CA's employed in equity research.. so there is ample oppurtunity provided ur worth it...

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https://www.careers-in-finance.com/ibsal.htm

 

Going into 2011, starting salaries for investment banking positions with a bachelors degree (assistant or junior analyst position) should range from $100,000 to $130,000 after bonus. Starting salaries with an MBA degree (associate position) range after bonus from $90,000 to $180,000. These salaries vary with firms and with the region of the country you are in. Bonuses typically would be 10-50% of salary to start and can move to one to three times salary later. Lately, salaries have increasingly included an equity component which may not be liquid for up to three years, although as an analyst you would typically be sheltered from this. This is good for the banks because it makes it much harder for people to move around.

As we write this in December 2010, banking salaries and bonuses are on the rise as several large banks are reporting record profits. The public perception that high banker salaries may have worsened the financial crisis of 2008/9 is not forgotten, but with high profits many investment banks will be forced to pay good bonus compensation to retain talent, despite the PR risk of doing so.

 

   

Generic salary advice: Some firms tend to pay less than others because they can get away with it. You might actually be better off taking less. Obviously don't give yourself away but at the entry level, the quality of experience you get and the strength of the people you will work with are far more important than how much you get paid. You are trying to maximize the present value of your future earnings and enjoyment. This may involve taking lower pay now. Or, if you're lucky, it might not.

 

Salaries are Bounding Back. All-in compensation took a substantial hit in 2008 with many firms paying low to zero bonuses (the dreaded "goose egg"). Starting offers in 2010 and many year end bonus numbers for 2009 were up substantially, although typically down from their peak in 2007 (overall, down 10 to 30% from peak, depending on the firm and position). Bonuses being paid at the beginning of 2011 likewise look to be up, but in general still not quite at their pre-recession peak. Bulge firm salaries typically run 20% to 40% over boutiques and regional firms (although there are prominent exceptions to the rule). Forecast salary ranges in the 2010 to 2012 period are as follows:

Salaries in Investment Banking (with bonus)

Job Level Salary Range Typical All-in Comp Prerequisite
(degree/yrs experience)
First Year Analyst $90K - 150K $125K Bachelor's
Third Year Analyst $120K - 350K $165K Bachelor's
First Year Associate $150K - 250K $180K MBA
Third Year Associate $300 - 500K $350K MBA
Vice President $350K - 1MM $700K 3-6 years
Director / Principal $400K - 1.5MM $900K 5-10 years
Managing Director / Partner $500K - 20 MM $1.5 MM 7-10 years
Department head $800K - 70MM $3.5MM 10+ years

Note: This table is based upon conversations with banking insiders about yearly bonuses expected to be paid between December 2010 and February 2011. MM denotes millions. K denotes thousands of US dollars.

Examples of Specific Salaries in 2008/2009

We are hearing a lot more diversity in compensation levels than usual. This is less true at the analyst level where firms try to harmonize compensation with "The Street". Firms will raise starting offers, more or less, in lock step at this level. However, the situation differs at more senior levels - even mid Associate.

A related salary trend involves compensation across areas. Obviously, with the new financial reforms, certain areas like prop trading, institutional equity sales and securitization are under pressure. In contrast, other banking areas like restructuring, health care M&A/financing and debt capital markets are in growth mode and there is substantial upward pressure on salaries amidst renewed hiring.


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Does a CA degree add value?

 

I qualified as a CA in 2002 and am currently pursuing an MBA in Barcelona, Spain. Since I manage to get some free time, i often reflect on the value of the CA degree in my professional life. I was under the system where i did my articleship alongwith college (I don’t know how they have currently structured the same) and so it was an extremely challenging course, not only academically – but also in terms of becoming a working professional. I worked in a variety of industries subsequently, ranging from Real Estate to Consulting for quite a few years.

The basis of my reflection upon the real value of the degree is based on two aspects:

a. The Technical (hard skills): Without doubt, the CA degree gave me tools and skills which are incredible. I know of no other course that is as rigorous and demanding in so many different subjects (Law, Accounting, Cost Accounting, etc) and yet manages to maintain the depth in each of those subjects. The level and depth of understanding required in each of these areas is incredible. In my current experience, it compliments the general and overall nature of my education during an MBA. I am now able to relate and link different aspects of a company (related to the subjects we study in CA) in an overall level. The ability to see implications of one decision in different aspects is an invaluable skill that people aspire to achieve when they move up in a hierarchy of an organisation. I believe that this fundamental basis was laid down for me by pursuing the CA course.

b. Soft Skills: Since i started my articleship alongwith college, i had the advantage of having worked for 3 years by the time i completed my college. This i feel was a huge advantage in terms of knowing people, business and just being aware of myself as a professional. This experience definately helps to shape one’s views and attitudes. It was hard work during those years, but I would definatly recomment it to people who want to gain an edge over others when they are working. The nature of skills that you need to develop while you are on Audit and studying in college at the same time are incredible – you learn to balance multiple things, establish and maintain relations and eventually also deliver results as a professional.

OK, so have i realy answere dmy own question – does a CA degree add value?
For me, the answer is a clear Yes, but it would be nice to hear other people’s experiences and views on the same. (Why I chose to do an MBA ? – wait for the next post!)

source

 https://www.forum4ca.com/does-a-ca-degree-add-value/

 

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hI, GUYS,

 im also interested in Investment Banking  or other hardcore financial sector.

Im CWA &in  CA(Final) & CS (Final).

Problem is that i m doing job in manufacturing sector & want to shift to service sector.

but all they required experience or MBA(F). I M CONFUSED WHAT TO DO?

assuming ur cs final attemt is after 1 years and ca final attempt is after that....the only way i see it is... if u r a graduate already then.. join cfa... obviously  the international one...and complete l1 before completing ur ca final... then give cat/gmat..and aim for iim/isb only.... and if u can get above 740 in gmat u can even aim for bschools abroad... the main point here is to be sure u can get cfa l1 clear......

 

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when i joined PCC way back in 2007 i read in rpospectus that a Member of institute cant pursue cousrse by CFA! . then a year back i hear CA can do it after a court judgement granted... what is the exact position can you tell??

broda do waht ever u want just dont tell ICAI.....:-)


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m also interested...i don like audit at all

@ parag ..u r welcome here brother....

share ue doubts with us..hope we can help


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Private equity, in finance, is an asset class consisting of equity securities in operating companies that are not publicly traded on a stock exchange.[1]

Private equity investments are primarily made by private equity firms, venture capital firms, or angel investors, each with their own set of goals, preferences, and investment strategies, yet each providing working capital to a target company to nurture expansion, new product development, or restructuring of the company’s operations, management, or ownership.[2] Among the most common investment strategies in private equity are: leveraged buyoutsventure capitalgrowth capitaldistressed investments and mezzanine capital. In a typical leveraged buyout transaction, a private equity firm buys majority control of an existing or mature firm. This is distinct from a venture capital or growth capital investment, in which the investors (typically venture capital firms or angel investors) invest in young or emerging companies, and rarely obtain majority control.


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