SELF STUDY-WHY DISCOURAGING US?

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I cleared CPT in June with 132 marks with self study. And now trying to clear firs group of IPCC in may 2011. I know IPCC is just playing a test Match after a t20 match. But I think I can clear it in very first attempt as I am familiar with these subjects in degree level. But..... Many of people when I saying Self study, they discouraging me by saying it is tough and even students from brilliant institutes cant clear it.
My question is what is your openion about
1.self study with willingess is enough
2.why they discourage us? Is it a good practice?
3. Todays All CAs are gone to tution?

Replies (14)
Its not bad but you will lack reasons or in depth knowledge which a teacher can only provide you

Dear Sahis,

whatever you are thinking is very good and a brave decision in deed.

i can only say that the CA study is like a ocean and a teacher can only guide you to the simplest way to complete your journey with minimum loss of time.

Finally there is no alternative for hardwork and no shorcuts for sucess

Take my word for it but I myself did maximum subjects in PE-2 and Final by self study....
 

I can understand their is more fear involved in taking the decision of self study then actually doing so.

Jst like u, wen i was giving exams... i found 95 % of the students filing for tutions.... But U C, it needs more courage to take the project than actually completing it..

In teh same way... if u hve patience to sit for long hours with nobody to ask ur degree of preparations overtime and u can responsiblly think to complete the course on time..... their is absolutely no problem to do that...

"If u will not go too far... how can u know how far u can go........."

Don't go by teh spate of ur friends joining tutions.... keep trust on ur instincts.... if u hve judged the course content & material.... their is no problem in self study... After all at the end of the day... U r left with the notes to do final preparations and that is nothing but the self study... Moreover for self study u can buy notes with solutions of good teachers & also refer friends in case of doubt.....

Yes. Go for tuition is best. We will miss advice of a teacher, experts and friends. But as we have a platform like CACLUBINDIA, why we worried about self study. I hope all of the members of CACLUBINDIA will help us and will clarify our doubts. Thanking you...

Hai Sahis,

I cleared PE I & PE II without any coaching. I am not attending classes for final too. Coaching is not necessary to clear ca. The main advantage of coaching is that u can complete topics in lesser time. You will be more systematic & regular in studies. The good thing about self study is that you don't have any shortcuts available..no coaching class notes & stuff like that..You rely solely on study material & some standard text books. As you have to understand the subjects on your own, you are forced to study in depth. A student who does self study will have good conceptual knowledge.

So capitalise on the benefits of both coaching & self study. Attend classes(if circumstances permit) for subjects in which you think coaching is required. Compliment it with self study. Ultimately it is the level of your knowledge which will help you clear the exams..not the amount of coaching you received.

Originally posted by : sahis

Yes. Go for tuition is best. We will miss advice of a teacher, experts and friends. But as we have a platform like CACLUBINDIA, why we worried about self study. I hope all of the members of CACLUBINDIA will help us and will clarify our doubts. Thanking you...

Yes no need to worry about self study as everyone is here to share with you and guide you. IPCC with self study is very much possible. Rest is dependent on your attitude.


Caclub is full of exam oriented notes. Do not worry and just go ahead.

 

Avoid isolated study for the success of self study. Keep in touch with your friends and discuus the topics for beter grip.

 

My best wishes !!!

Self study Vs. Coaching classes-A Whole new dimension with analysis

Hello Members,

 

One of the huge questions in front of the students is to decide whether to go for self study or for coaching. Through this write up I have tried to analyse certain untouched aspects of self study and very hopeful that this article would be able to provide certain guiding principles/suggestions to the student community.

 

Personally I feel that Self study is a very good option for every student because without self study it is very difficult to clear any examination. The main reason behind this thinking is coaching also involves a remarkable amount of self study. Later on in this write up we’ll discuss this point. Another reason to go for self study is the confidence factor involved in it. Successful self study may give you an incredible amount of confidence to deal with any kind of subject or course.

 

Further we have to understand one more thing quite clearly that self study or coaching classes are not the sole deciding factor as far as success in professional examination is concerned. You may find various examples around you. There are many students who have cleared their exams quite easily just by doing self study and some of the students who have taken coaching are still struggling or vice versa. So the main decisive factor is your honest efforts and commitment towards your preparation and nothing else. Let us discuss certain pre-conditions for self study entirely based on my personal observation. 


Pyramid /Hierarchical Structure of Self Study


ROLE OF TEACHERS/SENIORS IN SELF STUDY

 

1. Proper guidance regarding how to start your study from your teacher or from some senior student is very much important rather I would say it is indispensible. Main reason behind this point is a lot of theory content or material in the study module and reference books is totally irrelevant from the exam point of view and only someone senior can guide you regarding this vital and energy saving point.


2. Have regular discussions with your friends or seniors regarding exam oriented topics which you simply failed to understand during self study. As per my personal opinion this point is very important and plays a decisive role during self study and gives you and the other person a very good chance to interact with each other in a prolific way.


3. Selection of correct reference books is another essential pre-condition for self study. It is also advisable to collect all the reference books well in advance. One more thing time to time reference from your study module is also very important.

 

Along with selection of reference books in advance it is also advisable to collect exam oriented notes from the very beginning and stick to them. Kindly check the link below to download some useful exam oriented notes:

 

EXAM ORIENTED NOTES AT ONE PLACE

 

4. Kindly consider this point as a serious advice. During self study most of the time you study alone without interaction to anyone else. So self study may be a failure if you continue your prepare without interaction with anybody else. Remember a healthy and a light chit-chat can give your brain a much awaited relaxation and energy.

 

5. There are certain topics like direct tax at Final level for which special preparation or specific coaching is required and self study may not be sufficient from the point of view of conceptual clarity. So discuss these topics with your friends or with any experienced faculty/student to bring clarity of concept.

 

ROLE OF TIME MANAGEMENT IN SELF STUDY

 

6. Another pre-condition for self study is availability of time. Going for self study may be a bit risky when there is lack of time like you are preparing for other professional course simultaneously or busy in your job etc. In other words ample amount of time to study and superior time management plays an important role in self study.


7. Time management and study routine also plays an important role during self study. If you are not able to follow a set routine of study than in that case self study may be a complete disaster as in self study there is always a danger of lack of discipline. Main reason behind this probable lack of discipline is that there is no fear of coaching classes or tuition work and you are the sole ruler of your own wish. So in self study 100% commitment and study routine is very essential.   

 

BE FOCUSED AND FIRM DURING SELF STUDY AS SCOPE OF SELF STUDY IS MUCH WIDER THAN WE USED IN COMMON PARLANCE


8. Let me tell you a very important thing rather a fact that coaching also involves self study where as self study does not involve coaching. This point is really easy to understand. Reason behind this observation is that in coaching classes only concepts are discussed once or twice. But you have to understand those concepts on your own by self study only. A teacher can only teach you the method and discuss one or two examples but ultimate effort is required from your side to understand that method by practice of more questions connected with that particular method. So in this way we can say that coaching also involves self study and has much wider scope than we normally understand in common usage and without understanding the true meaning and components of self study it would be very difficult for anyone to clear any examination. Hope you all are agree with me w.r.t. this point/observation. Kindly visit the link below for certain exam tips and suggestions:  

 

EXAM ORIENTED SUGGESTIONS AND TIPS     

 

9. Next pre-condition for self study is the thorough knowledge of your course content so you must do a small R&D about the course contents by going through the syllabi to figure out what is relevant and what is irrelevant.

 

 

10. Last but certainly not the least pre-condition of self study is analysis of your strength and weakness as you are the sole owner of your strength and weakness. Only you can utilize your strength and weakness in the best possible manner. You may analyse your strength in the following manner --- if you are more confident in solving practical problems as compare to your approach towards theory preparation and presentation then you must devote extra time to improve your theory preparation and presentation skills and vice versa.

 

 

    SELF STUDY Vs. COACHING CLASSES – A MUCH AWAITED COMPARISON




COACHING CLASSES

 

  Coaching is not a bad idea at all especially for certain demanding subjects like Direct Tax etc. Reason behind this point of view is not only the technicalities involved in the subject but also the need and confidence desired for the future professional working and practice.

 

 One of the outstanding benefits of coaching is interaction or networking with an enormous group of people which is very essential in today’s competitive environment where networking is kind of indispensible. Further the proper guidance provided by the professional teachers/tutors along with exam oriented handouts is one of the major motives for students to go for coaching.

 

  Alarm: But here we must understand one thing very clearly that the above facilities involve a huge amount of financial burden as far as your pocket is concerned which may not be possible for every parent or student to bear. Another shortcoming/risk involved with coaching class is your interaction with faculty. If you failed to cope up with teaching style of faculty than there may be some serious problem.         

 


SELF STUDY

 

  As mentioned above self study is one of the essential components of coaching classes and no coaching can be successful without the input or flavor of self study. One of the major benefits of self study is that it is cost and time effective and makes you compatible for the preparation of any kind of professional course. Self study also saves your energy which is required for coaching classes.

 

 It also removes your dependency on coaching classes and you can start your study immediately after registration. Self study is the real key which is directly connected to your confidence level

 

  Alarm: We must remember one thing while going for Self study that Self study is a bit time consuming process and a lot of R&D is involved in it to succeed. In other words Self study demanded extra time to complete the course for which you have to prepare yourself mentally. A lot of discipline, planning and guts required to go for Self study. However personally I feel that all the above mentioned alarms are easily maintainable if you are well aware of your strength and weakness and deal with the situation accordingly.


 

Hope this Article would be off some help during your professional journey. 

Wish you all the Best

 

Best Regards

Ankur Garg

" There are many students who have cleared their exams quite easily just by doing self study and some of the students who have taken coaching are still struggling or vice versa. So the main decisive factor is your honest efforts and commitment towards your preparation and nothing else."

 

Ankur sir and Ashish Sir have already explained it very well that CA can be cleared without coaching. what is needed is the determination and dedication towards the course.

hai sahis, go through the article given by ankur sir and most importantly go through this article also. you will get an idea about self study or coaching.......  dont miss it.....

/articles/how-important-is-coaching--6895.asp

Originally posted by : Jithin


Hai Sahis,


I cleared PE I & PE II without any coaching. I am not
attending classes for final too. Coaching is not
necessary to clear ca. The main advantage of coaching
is that u can complete topics in lesser time. You will
be more systematic & regular in studies. The good
thing about self study is that you don't have any
shortcuts available..no coaching class notes & stuff like
that..You rely solely on study material & some
standard text books. As you have to understand the
subjects on your own, you are forced to study in
depth. A student who does self study will have good
conceptual knowledge.


So capitalise on the benefits of both coaching & self
study. Attend classes(if circumstances permit) for
subjects in which you think coaching is required.
Compliment it with self study. Ultimately it is the
level of your knowledge which will help you clear the
exams..not the amount of coaching you received.

Thank you

I cleared mu PE1 and PE2 with only 2 coachings,costing and tax(and that too frm not so well known teachers) as they have lot of new things and as i was new to them. In final also I took coaching only for accounts and tax,as in delhi the teachers in for Sharma sir and VG sir gives u insight for the whole life. And that too becoz of articleship i took 60 pc of their classes and yet mby god's grace I fared well than those who studied everything frm big names and still going good

Originally posted by : Ankur Garg




Originally posted by : sahis






Yes. Go for tuition is best. We will miss advice of a teacher, experts and friends. But as we have a platform like CACLUBINDIA, why we worried about self study. I hope all of the members of CACLUBINDIA will help us and will clarify our doubts. Thanking you...






Yes no need to worry about self study as everyone is here to share with you and guide you. IPCC with self study is very much possible. Rest is dependent on your attitude.





Caclub is full of exam oriented notes. Do not worry and just go ahead.


 

Avoid isolated study for the success of self study. Keep in touch with your friends and discuus the topics for beter grip.


 

My best wishes !!!

Dear Sahis,

I am also self study like u,  preparing for  IPCC May'011   whith out coaching.

I suggest u to spend 5 mnts  for read the below motivational matter.

FROGS

Once upon a time there was a bunch of tiny frogs....
FROGS

Once upon a time there was a bunch of tiny frogs....
who arranged a running competition.

The goal was to reach the top of a very high tower.

A big crowd had gathered around the tower to see the race and cheer on the contestants....

The race began....

Honestly:

No one in crowd really believed that the tiny frogs would reach the top of the tower.

You heard statements such as:

"Oh, WAY too difficult!!"

"They will NEVER make it to the top."

"Not a chance that they will succeed. The tower is too high!"





The tiny frogs began collapsing. One by one....

Except for those, who in a fresh tempo, were climbing higher and higher....

The crowd continued to yell, "It is too difficult!!! No one will make it!"


More tiny frogs got tired and gave up....

But ONE continued higher and higher and higher....

This one wouldn't give up!







At the end everyone else had given up climbing the tower. Except for the one tiny frog who, after a big effort, was the only one who reached the top!

THEN all of the other tiny frogs naturally want ed to know how this one frog managed to do it?





A contestant asked the tiny frog how he had found the strength to succeed and reach the goal?

It turned out....

That the winner was DEAF!!!!







The wisdom of this story is:

Never listen to other people's tendencies to be

negative or pessimistic....
because they take your most wonderful dreams and wishes away from you -- the ones you have in your heart!

Always think of the power words have.

Because everything you hear and read will affect your actions!

Therefore:

ALWAYS be....

POSITIVE!


And above all:

Be DEAF when people tell
YOU that you cannot fulfill your dreams!

Always think:


God and I can do this!

Pass this message on to 5 "tiny frogs"
you care about.

Give them some motivation!!!



Most people walk in and out of your life......but FRIENDS leave footprints in your heart

In two days tomorrow will be yesterday. Today is no special day and I have no particular reason for writing to you... I have no news to tell you.... nor any problems to discuss with you.... or gossip to tell you... It's only one of those happy moments ... when I thought of you... and I would like to share these thoughts with you...
MANY SMILES BEGIN BECAUSE OF ANOTHER SMILE...




To The World You Might Be One Person; But To One Person You Might Be the World.

You have been Tagged by the Froggy,
FROGS

Once upon a time there was a bunch of tiny frogs....
who arranged a running competition.

The goal was to reach the top of a very high tower.

A big crowd had gathered around the tower to see the race and cheer on the contestants....

The race began....

Honestly:

No one in crowd really believed that the tiny frogs would reach the top of the tower.

You heard statements such as:

"Oh, WAY too difficult!!"

"They will NEVER make it to the top."

"Not a chance that they will succeed. The tower is too high!"





The tiny frogs began collapsing. One by one....

Except for those, who in a fresh tempo, were climbing higher and higher....

The crowd continued to yell, "It is too difficult!!! No one will make it!"


More tiny frogs got tired and gave up....

But ONE continued higher and higher and higher....

This one wouldn't give up!







At the end everyone else had given up climbing the tower. Except for the one tiny frog who, after a big effort, was the only one who reached the top!

THEN all of the other tiny frogs naturally want ed to know how this one frog managed to do it?





A contestant asked the tiny frog how he had found the strength to succeed and reach the goal?

It turned out....

That the winner was DEAF!!!!







The wisdom of this story is:

Never listen to other people's tendencies to be

negative or pessimistic....
because they take your most wonderful dreams and wishes away from you -- the ones you have in your heart!

Always think of the power words have.

Because everything you hear and read will affect your actions!

Therefore:

ALWAYS be....

POSITIVE!


And above all:

Be DEAF when people tell
YOU that you cannot fulfill your dreams!

Always think:


God and I can do this!

Pass this message on to 5 "tiny frogs"
you care about.

Give them some motivation!!!



Most people walk in and out of your life......but FRIENDS leave footprints in your heart

In two days tomorrow will be yesterday. Today is no special day and I have no particular reason for writing to you... I have no news to tell you.... nor any problems to discuss with you.... or gossip to tell you... It's only one of those happy moments ... when I thought of you... and I would like to share these thoughts with you...
MANY SMILES BEGIN BECAUSE OF ANOTHER SMILE...




To The World You Might Be One Person; But To One Person You Might Be the World.

You have been Tagged by the Froggy,
which means you are a great friend!! 

which means you are a great friend!! 

who arranged a running competition.

The goal was to reach the top of a very high tower.

A big crowd had gathered around the tower to see the race and cheer on the contestants....

The race began....

Honestly:

No one in crowd really believed that the tiny frogs would reach the top of the tower.

You heard statements such as:

"Oh, WAY too difficult!!"

"They will NEVER make it to the top."

"Not a chance that they will succeed. The tower is too high!"





The tiny frogs began collapsing. One by one....

Except for those, who in a fresh tempo, were climbing higher and higher....

The crowd continued to yell, "It is too difficult!!! No one will make it!"


More tiny frogs got tired and gave up....

But ONE continued higher and higher and higher....

This one wouldn't give up!







At the end everyone else had given up climbing the tower. Except for the one tiny frog who, after a big effort, was the only one who reached the top!

THEN all of the other tiny frogs naturally want ed to know how this one frog managed to do it?





A contestant asked the tiny frog how he had found the strength to succeed and reach the goal?

It turned out....

That the winner was DEAF!!!!







The wisdom of this story is:

Never listen to other people's tendencies to be

negative or pessimistic....
because they take your most wonderful dreams and wishes away from you -- the ones you have in your heart!

Always think of the power words have.

Because everything you hear and read will affect your actions!

Therefore:

ALWAYS be....

POSITIVE!


And above all:

Be DEAF when people tell
YOU that you cannot fulfill your dreams!

Always think:


God and I can do this!

Pass this message on to 5 "tiny frogs"
you care about.

Give them some motivation!!!



Most people walk in and out of your life......but FRIENDS leave footprints in your heart

In two days tomorrow will be yesterday. Today is no special day and I have no particular reason for writing to you... I have no news to tell you.... nor any problems to discuss with you.... or gossip to tell you... It's only one of those happy moments ... when I thought of you... and I would like to share these thoughts with you...
MANY SMILES BEGIN BECAUSE OF ANOTHER SMILE...




To The World You Might Be One Person; But To One Person You Might Be the World.

You have been Tagged by the Froggy,
which means you are a great friend!! 

@ Sahis

Welcome


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