Is ICAI Bias towards West and Central region Students ?

Pradip Srinivasan

CA Final

869 Points Joined May 2009

I am purely from south, i have seen from my PEII that many of the rank holders r from north. As manmohan said i couldn't differntiate

it from western or central region. Most of the rank holders names r in northern style. I did not argue that they r not qualified, but y the Top ranks r not received by all parts of india.

Also i happen to know that they appear in Hindi, could this b the reason?

Friends i am just expressing the opinion i have. And of course i do accept with Manmohan.

saurabh jain

Audit Specialist

271 Points Joined August 2008

Dear friends,

why do you think such kind of thing.

it shows your narrow thinking only. their have been presidents from rajasthan as well as south.

and in all times rajasthan gave good results.

why do you have such narrow thinking sir.

this is showing your mentality to distribute the people in parts. rajasthani people are also hardworking,expert in management.

even you can see the cat results sir. you should not post such types of topics showing the danger to integrity of institute.

we all should be loyal to our institute and should have faith in our institute. sir proud to be an indian only and only.

sagiraju vsrk varma

cma final

30 Points Joined July 2009

your 100% correcrt mr.

CA Dhiraj Ramchandani

CA M. com

10823 Points Joined November 2008

Oh com'n you people out there...

How can u even think like that??

I'm from Western Region.. Though many of my eligible friends could not clear in first and even in two attempts.. They r really genuinly eligible...

So, i think its of no use to think in this way..

Sorry MR. MANMOHAN I COMPLETELY DISAGREE WITH YOU

Subhendu S Sanyal

B.Com(C.S.) CA FINAL

666 Points Joined February 2009

for me then i hv to go to PE-II ONLY.... I SAW THE FOLLOWING ANNOUNCEMENT ONLY AFTER SUBMITTING PE-II EXAM FORM...THOUGH I CONVERTED TO IPCC ON 31/7/09...i GOT EXEMPTION IN AUDITING & LAW. THIS JUNE...SO FOR ME A/C & GROUP-2 LEFT..I AM GOING WITH PE-II ...:-

An Important Announcement for Students of Erstwhile Intermediate/ Professional Education (Course – II)/ Professional Competence Course (PCC) who have mean while converted to Integrated Professional Competence Course (IPCC) – relaxation of nine months study course period to appear in the Integrated Professional Competence Course (IPCC) to be held in November, 2009.

Eligibility to appear in the November, 2009 Integrated Professional Competence Examination (IPCE)

All students who have been registered for the erstwhile Intermediate under paragraph 2 or 2 A of schedule B to the Chartered Accountants Regulations 28 or who have been registered for the erstwhile Professional Education (Course-II) or who have been registered for the Professional Competence Course (PCC) are eligible for conversion to IPCC by paying the prescribed conversion fee along with the conversion application form obtained along with IPCC prospectus or down loaded from https://www.icai.org/resource_file/14262ipcc_re_regform.pdf - IPCC Re-Registration Formto be submitted to the concerned Regional Office on or before September 14, 2009 for becoming eligible to appear in the November, 2009 examination. Examination applications together with the prescribed fee by Demand Draft of any Scheduled Bank may be sent so as to reach the Additional Secretary (Examinations) at New Delhi not later than 7th September, 2009. However, applications will also be received direct by Delhi Office after 7th September, 2009 and upto 14th September, 2009 with late fee of Rs. 500/-. Applications received after 14th September, 2009 shall not be entertained under any circumstances.

(i) Relaxation of Nine months study course period to appear in the November, 2009 IPCC examination

Students who have mean while converted from erstwhile Intermediate/ Professional Education (Course – II)/ Professional Competence Course to Integrated Professional Competence Course (IPCC) and have completed minimum period of nine months from the date of registration in Intermediate/ Professional Education (Course – II) or completed nine months after joining the Professional Competence Course are permitted to appear in the Integrated Professional Competence Examination to be held in November, 2009.

(ii) Successful completion of Information Technology Training (ITT)

Students who have successfully completed 250 hours of compulsory computer training (CCT) under PEE-II or those who have successfully completed 100 Hours Information Technology Training either under PCC or IPCC may appear in the Integrated Professional Competence Examination (IPCE) to be held in November, 2009.

Students those who have registered on or before January 31, 2009 directly to IPCC or converted from Intermediate/ PEE-II/ PCC to IPCC and undergoing 100 Hours IT Training are required to complete the 100 hours IT training before the date of declaration of the result of IPCE, November, 2009. Such students should furnish proof of completion of the 100 hours IT training to the examination section latest by January 15, 2010.

(iii) Successful completion of Orientation Programme

Students are required to complete the Orientation Porgramme of 35 hours before the date of declaration of the result of IPCE, November, 2009. Such students have to furnish proof of completion of the Orientation Programme to the examination section latest by January 15, 2010.

Amit Ingale

Student CA Final

1454 Points Joined April 2008

Right .

CA Hitesh Solanki

CHARTERED ACCOUNTANT

57 Points Joined June 2009

our President wrote in january 2010 Student News Letter That ''there are certain misnomers in the minds of students of chartered accountancy.some of You feel that the Institute MODERATES the results.i wish to reaffirm that we do not undertake any moderation that is directed towords reducing the results.The interest of the students are utmost in our minds.The results truly reflects your performance in the examination."

I personally not statisfied from above statement..i want only 1 thing from ICAI that if they do not moderate our results than allows us to apply for Revaluation of answer book instead of verification of Marks. i am doubting on Paper checker.

Regarding Bias ICAI must clarify student thoughts.

saurabh jain

Audit Specialist

271 Points Joined August 2008

DEAR SIR,

I CLARIFIED ABOUT IT LAST TIME ALSO. THAT IF YOU HAVE SUCH TYPE OF PROBLEM.THEN WHY YOU ARE HESITATING???????????? GO DIRECTLY ON WEBSITE OF INSTITUTE AND ASK THEM ABOUT THEIR BIASNESS.

IF YOU FEEL THAT AN INSTITUTE POSSESING INTERNATIONAL LEVEL CAN DO SUCH TYPE OF WORK IN WHICH REPRESENTATIVES OF ALL PARTS OF INDIA ARE PRESENT IN BOARD , THEN THIS THINKING WILL AMOUNT AS """"KHYALI PULAV""".

BUT EVEN IF YOU HAVE PROBLEM WITH THIS, YOU CAN WRITE TO INSTITUTE ON MAIL ACCOUNT ALSO.

Sandeep Ramankutty

Auditor

163 Points Joined September 2008

i agree with manmohan's doubt.last time also the toppers were from rajasthan; the place of UPA.moreover, the results of pcc are getting delayed.there is not even an announcement of the date of results.i think something is happening behind the scenes.all these suspicious situations commenced in the UPA era.

fortunately, the rank holders of final under old scheme and new scheme are from southern region.but apart from them, the others who wrote the final had scored very badly

saurabh jain

Audit Specialist

271 Points Joined August 2008

DEAR SANDEEP,

As you said that fortunately ranks for final are from south. Then how you can blame the institute. If you have doubt that institute can do this, then no need to fear, we are also against the biasness. But nothing will happen only by saying here, we have to take action and raise the matter on institute's website. And take participation in national conventions and other events organized by institute and raise matter against them.

saurabh jain

Audit Specialist

271 Points Joined August 2008

DEAR Aldrine sir,

One of my friend vishal gave two times exam from Udaipur, rajasthan. Thereafter his family got transferred to Chennai and he passed both group with good marks. So it doesn't make a basis for highlighting the biasness. And if you talk about local language, then I want to inform you that local language of Rajasthan is marawadi. All languages are good sir.

Facts are that sir only 1-2 out of 100 student give exam in Hindi medimum in Rajasthan.

And Hindi is chosen as medium for exam only because at that time in constitution it is approved by al leaders. Even today we read, write, speak in English, even it is not our mother tongue.

So if we go on your suggestion that everyone will demand that paper should be conducted in their own language and that day will not be far where many demands for different states will arise like- telangana.

AND SIR, YOU ARE CHARTERED ACCOUNTANT , YOU CAN RAISE THIS MATTER IN ELECTIONS WITH YOUR COLLEAGUES.

saurabh jain

Audit Specialist

271 Points Joined August 2008

sir,

we haven't sacrificed even a 1% compare to ancient india. leave this sir, i want to say that language is not a problem. a person who can prepare in tamil, malylam, bangali, he can prepare in any language sir.

sir, even i was from hindi and sanskrit medium but i had to change my medium to english , because no availability of good classes in that language and i passed pcc both group. in udaipur june 2009 only 41 students passed out of 641 students and from our class only 4 students passed out of 100. that was shocking because we were expecting 10 students in our batch. so sir, this is not a big issue. we have to study hard for that only.

and as you said about transfers, the problem is that it is in favour of chartered accountants so no CA rose a voice against it. and student rose voice against it. so, transfer's time period is extended for a month in 2009.

saurabh jain

Audit Specialist

271 Points Joined August 2008

sir,

we haven't sacrificed even a 1% compare to ancient india. leave this sir, i want to say that language is not a problem. a person who can prepare in tamil, malylam, bangali, he can prepare in any language sir.

sir, even i was from hindi and sanskrit medium but i had to change my medium to english , because no availability of good classes in that language and i passed pcc both group. in udaipur june 2009 only 41 students passed out of 641 students and from our class only 4 students passed out of 100. that was shocking because we were expecting 10 students in our batch. so sir, this is not a big issue. we have to study hard for that only.

and as you said about transfers, the problem is that it is in favour of chartered accountants so no CA rose a voice against it. and student rose voice against it. so, transfer's time period is extended for a month in 2009.