Stop praising!!!!! wake up

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Hello Guys,well iam a very small person and i just cant write big big articles on CA and its benefit ,i see people write articles on life of a CA student....how good the CA course...how your life will change once u became a CA etc.........what i personally feel that its a just a damm normal course which is fully HYPED ........  lenthy course where u invest 3-4 years of your life,,, and its nothing like once u become CA world will start following u .....its a damm normal thing,specially in recent period.Everyone knows now that passing % of CA is improved,ICAI had become money oriented institute by making entry simple.Today there r many IPCC passed student who dont know anything about Direct Tax,they simple pass on the basis of 50 marks VAT and ST.Recently IIT placements r going on where 2 students are hired by FB @ a pacakage of  77 lakhs,whereas ICAI placemnts highest package was not even half of it,WHY???? why CA's r never hired at a such price?? no doubt latter CA's too earn good by performing but this due to their personal efforts ICAI has no role....ICAI cant be compared with IIT or IIM yet 

Be loyal and think in a rational way,2 guys both graduting one decide to join a corporate and start its career at a package of 2-3 lakhs pa,where other guy decide to join CA articleship for 3 year.....Dont u think 3 year down the line the earlier guy  if he performed well will be more polished and in a better postion rather than a latter CA fresher he would be having 3 years of corporate exprience which counts a lot rather than being fresher(Articleship is not count i experince for corporates)

 I had nothing against ICAI nor against CA course,me myself persuing it my conclusion of this article is that we r the next gen of ICAI and we should not simply hype the course by saying its damm tough and all those crap....what we should do so that we get what we deserve. I may wrong in every sense....comments and suggestion welcomed

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Absolutely true Prem...

CA course is unneccesarliy exaggerated course by the people who r not aware about curriculum or the people who are known to this but unneccesary manipulating things as ICAI...angry

I mean after devoting 4 or 5 year of punishment like hell by institute & from articleship, qualified ones are still struggling to kick start their career...sad

I see a normal regular commerce graduate with average intelligence from any recognised varsity is not encountering such obstacles...even  pursuing an MBA from distance learning mode after graduation with a job can also help in early inception of smooth career...surprise

So the idea is with in the same time frame after qualifying CA u'll still considered to be a FRESHER but MBA with job in same time frame will make one more EXPERIENCED for industry...frown

ICAI is now only focusing how to make more and more money. It has nothing to do with students in terms of career and perks as compare to their counterparts...angry

 

P.S. :

Views here expressed are my personal opinion and majority of people will agree with this but some of them may not agree...but here the intention is not to hurt or defame anyone and anybody in any sense...enlightened

 

Healthy comments And suggestions are most welcomed...yes

 

I Too agree with prem...................

it is normal course .........only diff is it is vast .......

After becoming CA, CA at initial stage get only 4-6 lac p.a. which is too low as compared to placement made at IIT And IIM........

i didi't understand why there is too much diff in pay between IIT/IIM and ICAI ???????

Guys thats my very point of discussion it's now time to think out of box and do something rather than just praising the glourious past or diffficulty level of CA exams or the stress faced by us etc

yes Prem ur right upto certain extend..........both  IIM's or IIT's  does not  appear in the top 100 best institute worldwide yet the package and even exposure their student get is very good, ICAI being the second  largest accounting body in the world somewhere or the other had failed in its task...specially when it comes to providing fat pack pacakges.

friends i agree with u all

CA is A great course !! It is too dificult !! it is very prestigious !! It is hard compared to others !! people take years to clear one exam !!

THESE ABOVE COMMENTS Seriously  SUCK. They are there to misguide everyone . nothing great in it. it is a normal course which is long and frustrating. relatives keep poking , kab ca banega , one single failure in an attempt is all that is needed to break hearts,friendship,confidence level . this is the reality whether you accept it or not . coachings , articleship , office,homework workload. i am also doing ca but i have completley removed any SPECIAL respect that i had for ca. give exams clear it . nothing else . may be it was great in the past.

maybe there are too many benefits in the future . but what about today . 

i see my friends 

getting up at 5 am then attending coaching from 6 to 11 . then office till 8 pm. then they come home have dinner revise their subjects , do homework and sleep at 12:30 . only 4.5 hrs of sleep . dont even ask the amount of stipend they get you all know it. this is huge investment which is never counted or seen. and i ask them why work so hard ? they say jab ban jayenge tab dekhna and then you see may 2011 result . still jobless c.a wow !! then you say ki it was only in this attempt . i ask why even in this attempt . now where is the famous quote " give me 1 lak c.a " by azim pemji . now you are not ready to take us . wow ! 3 years of reguar office work without salary and still you are a fresher .

C.a anthem should be " FORGET TODAY LIVE TOMMOROW "

 

yeah i know my post is a bl**dy full of negatives one . if i had read this 6 months ago i would have killed the author . but time is different now . but i am a positive person and so is everyone . do not leave or quit just make your own way through it. just realise that there is nothing special for you waiting in your future . it is ,if you are special your present and future is and will be special .

We need a CA Anna to voice our thoughts to icai, which is too busy making money from students. CPT is kept damn easy and most students are passed. Then all these passed-by-luck students register for ipcc, depending on luck again. These guys try for 2nd and 3rd attempt too, still hoping to pass. Then even if they pass ipcc, they will keep failing in final, hence lots of money for the institute by way of registration and exam fees!!wink

I personally think that after passing this normal CA course, we need to do other courses like MBA(fin), CIMA, CFA etc in order to earn huge salary packages. I am myself preparing for CAT(i.e. IIMs) simultaneously.

What u have wrote is 100% true, my neighbhour who doesnt know the full form of ICAI told me not to join the course as its very difficult, she said on of my xyz got 91% in 12th boards couldnt clear, how will u do? Now what should I answer to that

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But I disagree about the placement

i come from science background and IIT-JEE(entrance exam of IIT)=1000 times CPT(CA entrance), IIT entrants have to dedicate atleast 8-10 hrs/day and there is history about IIT-JEE that there has been not a single question repeated from past 70 years AND everyone knows how difficult it is to get to IIMs book knowledge is not enough 

The tragedy of above discussion.....we are comparing a course totally different from other courses like MBA,ENGINEERING......normally freshers at CA course dont get high packages.........its only after they depreciate their value increases..............CA= THEIR VALUE INCREASES AFTER DEPRECIATION &EXPERIENCE............THE PRICE OF A EXPERIENCED CA IS PRICELESS...........

Hey Guys ......First of all thxx to all for commenting.......i can see that iam not the only one with such feelings ....but my question comes to the same point ....can we do anything to change this or simply follow the age old comments and craps....plzz help as me damm frustrated

those who dont have respect for CA course or profession are requested to quit and do something else. you want money without doing anything or taking pain. you might have heard doctors having just mbbss working for as low as rs 20000 with primary medical centres. you are blindly cursing institute for your inabilities.

Excuse me Sree .....first let me make u clear that we r not against ICAI,this post was basically an eyeopener for all those merely praising the difficulty level of CA course and to open up a casual disscussion that why r CA's no where in compare with an IITians or IIM's

Hey prem i too agree 2 some extent with ur views........ but we cant blame institute for everything.... nd i feel ur package is mostly dependent on ur personality rather than degrees u hv or the institutes 4m whch u hv passed...... u hv said about the placements of 2 iit students bt at the same tym u will find many iit or iim students earning less than a c.a......... nd regarding articleship yes i agree it is not counted as experience bt in my opinion if u do ur articleship seriously then after being a c.a.u can easily crack the interviews nd cn b selected in good companies with good packages....

u knw frnds wht's the basic problem with us(i.e. basically c.a. students) we always keep blamming institutes our c.a. firms , our curriculum but do u analyse urself..... whr we stand??

C.a. is a very reputed course nd from a C.A. corporate sector nd industry expects a lot.... only passing the exams nd having a degree is not enough... we should keep ourselves update with all the current news of the finance nd economy we should be advance in each nd every subjects.... Accounting, taxation , finance....

so friends my suggestion 2 ol is stop complainig  there is ample opportunities in this course vbe smart and grasp the opportunities....... take ur articleship seriously  BE SMART ALL THE BEST... :) :)

 

fact y mba r preferred ova ca is : accounting by nature is restrictive, calculative and not growth oriented. the day u start any project thinkin abt its funds and accounting it dies thn and der. accouting is merely a part of analysis of the decisions of business after it has been taken. tats ur course !

whereas admin nd mangmnt is wat is takin those decisions !! tats mba !! managemnt goes beyond mere accouting and budgeting it focuses on growth of the company and its natural tat mba from reputed institutes r highly preferred.

so it does zero down to wat u wanna nd the course u ve opted. no point blamin the institute cos however gr8 ur institute cud be u ll paid by the company for the role u play !

 


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