Are you happy with CA system as it is now?

I would like to add another point....the fact that whenever any new president is elected, he wants to change the pattern of the course, last year PCC, this year IPCC, so there is no real consistency in the way students can decide their course and the institute is becoming more like a profit organization than a body of professionals by introducing various unnecessary programs like 'ORIENTATION PROGRAM" "MINIMUM CPE CREDITS" etc.

This has to change, there has to be some control on the way things have be drafted. They say the main defect with PCC was that there were many students who cleared CPT, but firms didnt have the vacancy....This clearly shows that it was done in a very unplanned manner.

And in matters relating to articleship period, there is need for control even in this area, because there are quite a few firms who tend to misuse students with no knowledge and  no experience, and make them do work which has no connection with this field.(I didnt mean to generalize all the CA firms, but there are a lot of firms which make this a practice) In this regard, the institute should clearly mention the work to be done by its students ,(Its mentioned in the format of the Diary, but no firm follows it i guess) to these firms.

I would like to conclude by saying that the institute should make a seperate body if they really want to check dummy articles, etc. and not torture the students by fixing their 3/3.5 yrs with one single firm, as no one knows the true picture of a firm unless you join it.

actually CA is tough but the changes made really harm the students.they face biggest hurdles.there should be consistency

were these really thought by u or just copy pasted from a site

If your query was real then I would say mine was not a cut-paste job.

If your query was again a "joke" then pray tell me which website has the thoughtlines which I have posted?

I would then have to consider this as a retort for my post on your posting termed "Joke".(Do I see hidden anger??,maybe coming out here as a stray comment) and ignore it for my benefit.Im sorry for eliciting from you such a response.

I invite constructive forms of discussion and not sidetracking from the main issue by digressive and irrelevant comments.

Thankyou

Nothing is wrong with current system

no it was a real one coz

on one side u showed great respect towards our degree by telling me not to joke on our profession but in this article u are asking If u are happy with CA institute even this kind of ideas among us can lead to thought degradation.

sorry with great respect towards u but my comment was only on ur contrasting ideas

hiii.. vidhya...

i alongwith my frnds can share my experience...

when i joined ca , i thought that after clearing pe2, i will move to mumbai, getting 3 years time.. 2 for training n 1 for studies..

then suddenly cpt scheme did arrive...

initially we thought  this is gonna b helpful.many of us, around 800 people at jodhpur get transited in new scheme...

after being enrolled n clearing cpt, we came to know that our bosses were not taking us seriously at all for the premeditated prejudice that we r not even inter/pe2 passed n dont know anything...

still we tried hard...n learnt whatever possibly we could...

after pcc almost all of us,wre to give college final year xams,, n by today,s date, we r not able to move any other place owing to this transfer ban rule.. n our shortage of time...

things get all worse when this ipcc was introduced, giving a good feature of industrial training after xams..

by today, we all r working with not-so-high profile firms...

conclusively , we can say that things did not go that right as was supposed to do go...

 Ya, i also agree.. Nothing is wrong with the current system..

hello Boss, I agree with u there are too many errors in ICAI system, on one side we keep vision and mission for a global trustee etc etc. but in our management there are holes. ICAI should provide compulsory ineratctive classes to its Student, it should teach rhem well then send them for articleship for a maximum period of 2 years, I think its more then enough, and at last conduct Final Exam covering more of Practical aspect..

ICAI dont hav control on its present members then how come future will be control. ICAI is now a political base, a good stage to earn a high market reputation..

I THINK EXCEPT  BAN ON ARTICLESHIP TRANSFER ... REMAINING THINGS ARE OK....

Some corrections:

I told you not to joke on the course because as it is, it is tough and it will weaken student morales.I did not comment exactly on the profession.

There is nothing wrong with asking whether one is happy with the CA institute,there is no thought degradation here.There is always a kaizen process involved and one can better the best on a daytoday basis and not get stuck in rut.If you look at my points carefully, I have also quoted both for and against the Institute to be unbiased.There is no contrast as it is and just plain discussion.

Your initial comment was on the source of my information, now you have changed it to "contrasting ideas"--this clearly shows you were not happy with my comment on your earlier post .But please look at the intention of my comment and there is nothing person between me and you.I apologize if I have hurt you.This too is with great respect to you, I say

only one thing i can tell is in Near future new students joinings will be declined drastically

Vidhyashankar, there is one more thing I would like to add to the above points, I know it does not have any direct connections with your points , but I feel the level of the minimum stipend should also be raised. I have raised this point even though its not a very important point because I feel this is the only course that actually Pays you for studying !!! So it should help all those students to cover up their fees for studies who cannot afford higher education as you may be well aware that education costs are moving skywards every day.

It also acts as a motivation, when you get this kind of appreciation at this age .

You are very right.Students when given a good monetary incentive will stick to work,learn from it,not take dummy,feel satisfied and also

will keep CAs on their toes and not exploit them.