A request to admin

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Hi to every Caclubindians

Before beginning, my observations are lengthy so please spare some time. Yesterday, there were some forums which carried allegations against two of the Top members, one Mr Vaibhav and the other is CA Prashanth Gupta. Both were started by a person named Mr Rahul Virani, a new member of CCI who just started his account day before yesterday. The forums reached more popularity and the admin has no other options to close the forums started by him to settle the issue. The allegations levelled against Mr Vaibhav was that:

1)      Mr Vaibhav received two thanks from persons whoever visited his profile without their knowledge;

2)      There were many fake thanks in his profle.

3)      There were some “self thanks” to his profile (i.e. Thanks to himself for his own contribution) to be precise 5 in number.

Just few hours of starting this thread, he alleged CA Prashanth Gupta that he received many fake thanks to boost up his points. And everyone was waiting for the action of Admin. To my surprise, the Admin deleted the account of Mr Rahul Virani. And I was at the impression that Admin has indirectly given a “GAG Order” to its members who were raising their voice against Top members. This was my view until I viewed the thread started by Mr Rahul Virani on CA Prashanth Gupta. And I changed my view on admin thereafter.

Rahul Virani started analysing the thanks received by CA Prashanth Gupta, as well. The allegations levelled against Mr Prashanth Gupta were baseless to my knowledge because of the inappropriate assumptions in his analysis. Atleast in Vaibhav's case there was clear evidence that whoever visited his profile has thanked him twice without their knowledge and there was some "self thanks". I think for this reason Admin might have deleted his account.

I never believe in making comparisons, but I am forced to do so. Once you decide to open a scam, you have to target/concentrate only on that scam like Mr Subramanian Swamy. If you go in the path of Mr Arvind Kejriwal, by trying to expose multiple scams, then it would be a great flop because, people can't concentrate on too many things and the whistle blower himself could not support his arguement with sufficient evidence owing to his concentration on too many things. And sometimes later, people will think that the whistle blower is doing all this things only for popularity. As I mentioned in my previous reply to Rahul Virani’s thread (That reply was to Mr Vaibhav, but sadly I had to say this to Rahul as well) there is a difference between credibility and popularity. Popularity can be reached overnight, but credibility is gained over a period of time. Rahul followed kejriwal's way, the first one he exposed regarding Vaibhav has created some suspicions. But after that what he said against CA Prashant Gupta was baseless. After all, why a CA should do all these things during his busy work schedule, what he is going to get by boosting his thanks here, not even a penny. Also one cannot track the thanks as to whether it is received from Fake or Other Members. So I think this is the reason Admin has banned his account.

But the work of Admin hasn’t stopped there, what about the case of Mr Vaibhav, many senior members like Ankur sir agreed that there were “Thanks” from them to Vaibhav without their knowledge and for which Mr Vaibhav could not claim any credit. Also the shocking fact revealed by Ankur Sir in that thread says that Mr Vaibhav received 400 plus thanks from March 1st to 4th. The top 5 thanked member has not even received 10% of what Mr Vaibhav received. Also Vaibhav claims that most of the thanks he received were from his brother. Is CCI is a place where you gain points due to mutual love and affection. Ofcourse Admin cannott track whether Thanks is delivered by a person who is related to the member, but admin can take this into note when considering how Mr Vaibhav has earned points. And what about the “self thanks” it might be only 5 in number but even the mistake of a smallest magnitude is a mistake. Admin has given only part judgement (not partial judgment I believe) by deleting the account of Mr Rahul.

Some months back in CCI I objected a person named Mr K K Agrawal for promoting his book which is loaded with errors saying that this was “India’s No 1 book on Taxation”. I opposed the same and wrote the review of the book for the benefit of students. At that time, Mr K K Agrawal’s points were some 2000 plus and I was merely a 100 plus points holder in CCI, but Admin delivered the justice by deleting his account for his wrong promotion misguiding the students.

If admin doesn't give any explanation about why it left Vaibhav, then sometimes later it would be a case where people would not give any comments in disagreement with top members fearing that their account would be deleted, eventhough their views are genuine. Next time if people like Mr K K Agrawal comes and cheats the student's community, then I really wonder I will be able to raise my voice against them. So before closing this thread, I request Admin to take an appropriate action on Mr Vaibhav also and deliver its official judgement through a reply.

Regards

K Sathish

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I fully concur with your observations Sathish, it is better for the Admin to take cognizance of this matter seriously rather than brushing it under carpet, to protect not only the sanctity of this great treasure called CCI but also to reprimand the guilty by officially pronouncing its verdict in full public glare.

DONT WORRY

ADMIN WILL MAKE GOOD,

BE PATIENT TILL THEN

WILL SEE WHAT WILL HAPPEN..

TIME WILL SAYS ANSWER

UNNESSARILY DONT MAKE UR ACCOUNT GET DELETED

BELEIVE IN ADMIN,..HE WILL DO WHAT IS RIGHT,..

admin might delete account -otherwise i also want to shout like like

 

Originally posted by : Sathish

 

Hi to every Caclubindians

Before beginning, my observations are lengthy so please spare some time. Yesterday, there were some forums which carried allegations against two of the Top members, one Mr Vaibhav and the other is CA Prashanth Gupta. Both were started by a person named Mr Rahul Virani, a new member of CCI who just started his account day before yesterday. The forums reached more popularity and the admin has no other options to close the forums started by him to settle the issue. The allegations levelled against Mr Vaibhav was that:

1)      Mr Vaibhav received two thanks from persons whoever visited his profile without their knowledge;

2)      There were many fake thanks in his profle.

3)      There were some “self thanks” to his profile (i.e. Thanks to himself for his own contribution) to be precise 5 in number.

Just few hours of starting this thread, he alleged CA Prashanth Gupta that he received many fake thanks to boost up his points. And everyone was waiting for the action of Admin. To my surprise, the Admin deleted the account of Mr Rahul Virani. And I was at the impression that Admin has indirectly given a “GAG Order” to its members who were raising their voice against Top members. This was my view until I viewed the thread started by Mr Rahul Virani on CA Prashanth Gupta. And I changed my view on admin thereafter.

Rahul Virani started analysing the thanks received by CA Prashanth Gupta, as well. The allegations levelled against Mr Prashanth Gupta were baseless to my knowledge because of the inappropriate assumptions in his analysis. Atleast in Vaibhav's case there was clear evidence that whoever visited his profile has thanked him twice without their knowledge and there was some "self thanks". I think for this reason Admin might have deleted his account.

I never believe in making comparisons, but I am forced to do so. Once you decide to open a scam, you have to target/concentrate only on that scam like Mr Subramanian Swamy. If you go in the path of Mr Arvind Kejriwal, by trying to expose multiple scams, then it would be a great flop because, people can't concentrate on too many things and the whistle blower himself could not support his arguement with sufficient evidence owing to his concentration on too many things. And sometimes later, people will think that the whistle blower is doing all this things only for popularity. As I mentioned in my previous reply to Rahul Virani’s thread (That reply was to Mr Vaibhav, but sadly I had to say this to Rahul as well) there is a difference between credibility and popularity. Popularity can be reached overnight, but credibility is gained over a period of time. Rahul followed kejriwal's way, the first one he exposed regarding Vaibhav has created some suspicions. But after that what he said against CA Prashant Gupta was baseless. After all, why a CA should do all these things during his busy work schedule, what he is going to get by boosting his thanks here, not even a penny. Also one cannot track the thanks as to whether it is received from Fake or Other Members. So I think this is the reason Admin has banned his account.

But the work of Admin hasn’t stopped there, what about the case of Mr Vaibhav, many senior members like Ankur sir agreed that there were “Thanks” from them to Vaibhav without their knowledge and for which Mr Vaibhav could not claim any credit. Also the shocking fact revealed by Ankur Sir in that thread says that Mr Vaibhav received 400 plus thanks from March 1st to 4th. The top 5 thanked member has not even received 10% of what Mr Vaibhav received. Also Vaibhav claims that most of the thanks he received were from his brother. Is CCI is a place where you gain points due to mutual love and affection. Ofcourse Admin cannott track whether Thanks is delivered by a person who is related to the member, but admin can take this into note when considering how Mr Vaibhav has earned points. And what about the “self thanks” it might be only 5 in number but even the mistake of a smallest magnitude is a mistake. Admin has given only part judgement (not partial judgment I believe) by deleting the account of Mr Rahul.

Some months back in CCI I objected a person named Mr K K Agrawal for promoting his book which is loaded with errors saying that this was “India’s No 1 book on Taxation”. I opposed the same and wrote the review of the book for the benefit of students. At that time, Mr K K Agrawal’s points were some 2000 plus and I was merely a 100 plus points holder in CCI, but Admin delivered the justice by deleting his account for his wrong promotion misguiding the students.

If admin doesn't give any explanation about why it left Vaibhav, then sometimes later it would be a case where people would not give any comments in disagreement with top members fearing that their account would be deleted, eventhough their views are genuine. Next time if people like Mr K K Agrawal comes and cheats the student's community, then I really wonder I will be able to raise my voice against them. So before closing this thread, I request Admin to take an appropriate action on Admin also and deliver its official judgement through a reply.

Regards

K Sathish

 

Thanks and I appreciate your efforts.

 

But I could not understand when you say “I request Admin to take an appropriate action on Admin also” Are there two Admin teams in CCI?

 

As you said CCI has produced fair judgment in past but why they are hesitating to repeat this time.

 

That’s only made me to post below in a separate on going discussion.

 


I know this is a stupid question but do any of you (out of genuine profiles only) personally know these tricksters. Is it possible that they are folks of the club in any manner?”

 

 

Sorry that was a mistake, it was "I request Admin to take an appropriate action on Mr Vaibhav also", I will correct it there as well. Thanks Santhosh. And I haven't come across any fake profile Mr Santhosh, I am very least popular/active and less contributing member here, who became active only few months before. So I don't know any fake accounts.


 

Originally posted by : Ganeshbabu

DONT WORRY

ADMIN WILL MAKE GOOD,

BE PATIENT TILL THEN

WILL SEE WHAT WILL HAPPEN..

TIME WILL SAYS ANSWER

UNNESSARILY DONT MAKE UR ACCOUNT GET DELETED

BELEIVE IN ADMIN,..HE WILL DO WHAT IS RIGHT,..

admin might delete account -otherwise i also want to shout like like

 

Sir

 

You are right, be careful and don’t shout otherwise your profile would get removed and you would require creating another profile to access the website.

 

No I think my account won't be deleted, because I haven't talked anything abusive against anyone. I just only made a request to Admin to deliver its judgement on the issue. Even if my account gets deleted then what I can do?. I will just move on. I don't think unnecessarily an account would be deleted by Admin.

Whether account will be deleted or not but this thread will be closed for sure.

Mr.Sathish, the issues you are raising are too old. We have raised all this (including Fake Profiles) but nothing will happen. Either your profile will be deleted or this thread will disappear.

No Ms Anita, this issue was raised very recently, and the issue was not about fake accounts. It is about fake thanks, wherein whoever visits the profile of Mr Vaibhav for first time has thanked him twice without their knowledge. Also, I was not aware of the fake account issue raised earlier as I am active in CCI only for past few months. I know this thread will be closed as I mentioned above, but I expect justice from Admin before closing this thread.

 


 

 

 

Fake thanks???

Can't believe this!!!

Originally posted by : Go green

 



 



 


 

Fake thanks???

Can't believe this!!!

 

Hello Mr or Ms Go Green

 

Yes it is unbelievable.

 

But I have reason to believe as I also thanked him without my knowledge.

 

 

 

 

 

Originally posted by : Sathish

 

Rahul Virani started analysing the thanks received by CA Prashanth Gupta, as well. The allegations levelled against Mr Prashanth Gupta were baseless to my knowledge because of the inappropriate assumptions in his analysis.
Regards

K Sathish


Thanks Sathish

at last truth is coming out

Truth will always come out sir, I mean what a Chartered Accountant, who is either busy in practice or in employment is going to get by boosting thanks in CCI, it is absolutely baseless. Just for the sake of revealing yet another scam and gaining popularity Mr Rahul might have done that. Thats my honest view. I agreed with Mr Rahul's analysis in the case of Mr Vaibhav, but not in your case sir because there was no sufficient evidence. Assumption like "Persons with no friends are fake" is very illogical.

Originally posted by : Sathish

Truth will always come out sir, I mean what a Chartered Accountant, who is either busy in practice or in employment is going to get by boosting thanks in CCI, it is absolutely baseless. Just for the sake of revealing yet another scam and gaining popularity Mr Rahul might have done that. Thats my honest view. I agreed with Mr Rahul's analysis in the case of Mr Vaibhav, but not in your case sir because there was no sufficient evidence. Assumption like "Persons with no friends are fake" is very illogical.

 

 

Even I have only one friend in my list, this is also because that person sent me friend request and I accepted.

 

 

Secondly, I have visited Mr. Prashant’s profile several times, I always read queries resolved by him in Expert section (as I find these very useful to enhance my knowledge base ). No thanks has been conveyed to him using my profile because I never conveyed actually.

 

 

Like you, I strongly believe that Thanks list of Mr Prashant is not forged.

 

 

But on the other hand, surprisingly Santosh Mishra (Me) has thanked Mr Vaibhav for an article without my knowledge. Interesting point is that I never seen that article before.

 

 

 

 

Just wait for Admin reply....i also request to Admin what he found out......The truth  we also wish to know......and i am nt afarid that my profile will be deleted because if deleted then also  i have no prob with it.....

 


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