Originally posted by : monika
	balu sir it means i shud leave my small firm were there is no audit of companies or so much of work ...

Its Just a suggestion....

In My opinion it is useless to do in the small firms where there is no audit exposure.....

Neither you will get audit experience nor office work...

Its better to join in a medium firm

If in small firms have diff kinds of clients where you can gain knowledge, exposure and different kinds of work then it’s not a problem. But if don’t get good exposure and diff kinds of works then it’s good to choose some good firms where u can get good exposure. From now itself if you get good exposure and knowledge then it will help lot to your future job prospectus. In exams also they are asking related to more practical question so its good to get good exposure…

Not a problem if you have joined already in small firm, if have joined recently then u can change on a year, but if you have joined long back then don’t break your head just try to get exposure from your boss or from your friends where they working in good firms or CCI is there with you always to help in every step.

Just work hard and make yourself the best.

Best of luck

Regards

Balu

i think only those people criticise big 4 jinke khud ki bas ki ni hoti..

big 4 is a big exposure..n abt hectic hours ..once u become ca u have to work for long hours..

and ca attempts doesnt affect much of ur salary package if u have big 4 behind u

If you are interested in CA practice go ahead with a small/mid size firm.

If you want to do a job or business (excluding CA practice), go for a big 4.

Besides money, you will get adapted to the corporate world/culture. You get an opportunity for networking as well. The big 4 brand works well out in the market, but dont forget to establish your own brand as well.

The questions posted in the latter part of the post by Surendra sir are very important. One needs to clearly define what he wants to do and why. Else, one would end up working too hard (doing CA) for something which can be achieved more easily.

Agreed with Lakshay. 

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Big four is suitable to those who wish to work  for 24 hours. 

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If one wishes to join such firms where all types of facilities are readily available; then why not to join ?

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And  :

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You need not have Indian Culture at all to live your life.

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( Multinationals are going successful in breaking Indian Heritage this way ).

agree with surendra sir n balu sir

There is no universal answer to this question.

In my 27 years of CA, I have worked in a Big 4 as well as a mid-sized firm post qualification, and have done Articleship in a mid-sized firm.

Personally, I would say that the best option is to go to a mid-sized firm.

If possible, go to a firm that has or had a Partner who was in the Central Council. Reason: nobody in the Central Council is likely to have a lousy private practice. (My articleship firm had a Institute President and the other mid-sized firm where I worked has 1 past President, 1 past Council Member and one current Council Member.)

A mid-sized firm will be a firm with 8 to 18 partners (this a broad parameter).

Good luck !!

I would like to share my  experience which I hv got in Big4s till nw...

for being an article in Big4  you hv to sacrifice for smthng.. nd tht smthng is ur stdies itself... nd tht has to be managed by anyways.. 

no doubt ur would get an grt work exposure..  but that could only be in one line of Service..

but once u hv through ur articleship nd cleared finals u would be having nice jobs opportunity in front of you..

So overall i would say.. there might sm difficulties or you might face some hectic schedule during ur articleship..u might hv to miss ur lectures.. but ultimately the result will be fruitful.. when u complete ur artclshp and ur confidence wil be at top...!!!! 

Please refere the below written link : 

/articles/a-special-post-for-all-of-those-whose-cleared-ca-ipcc-8637.asp

I posted an article few days before on the same topic ....hope it might be usefull. 

Regards

Madhusudan

hello sir.i am shruti from kanpur.....

i have the same confusion....whether i shoud work in big four or any medium sized......

i am willing to work and learn good experiences....

but the problem arises when the coachings go unmanageable as articles of big firm have really less time to sudy.......

is it better to work in a medium sized firm and complete my CA earliest possible....and then i can enroll for job in big four.????

Dear Shruti,

Just read out my Article and disscussion held in this forum between CCI'ties....... Your doubt will be cleared.

Madhusudan
 

I am new to CA....what are there big 4 firms?????

sir i joined ipcc-1 ......i hav to do a buisness in my city after my ca....i am willin to do practice in a medim firm in my city.....that firm is leading ca firm in our city.....so i should go for that firm or in any big firm..!!!????

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