Tds on reimbursement expenses

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Is tds need to be deducted on reimbursement expenses?
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It cannot be deducted in case of 194C & 194J

https://www.incometaxindia.gov.in/Communications/Circular/910110000000000611.htm

In case of 194c and 194j, tds need to be deducted in the gross amount (incl reimbursement of expenses)


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