ICAI President's Message - August 2010

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President's Message - August 2010

 

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Examination Results - A Mixed Bag:

The results of the latest CA Final Examination (May, 2010) and Common Proficiency Test-Paper Pencil Mode (June, 2010) are out. Overall, the results have been a mixed bag. While the results of CA Final Examination are disappointing, the results for CPT are satisfying. Nevertheless, we heartily congratulate all those who have passed the examinations. Our special compliments to the rank holders.

We are pained to take note of the poor performance in the CA Final Examination. It is a matter of grave concern for all of us. We are comprehensively analysing the results and suitable remedial measures will be taken in near future. However, students need not feel disheartened as to me the word no’ means ‘next opportunity’ and the word ‘end’ means ‘efforts never die’.

It seems that overdependence on private coaching, which does not meet the requirements of the changed pattern of examination, and the insensitiveness towards practical training, have also been contributory factors of the poor results. We have been constantly reiterating that students should take both their articleship training and studies more seriously. Practical training would immensely benefit the students in their examinations as well as in gaining experience. Nevertheless, we assure the students to undertake all the measures to mitigate their hardships.

At the same time, we would like to clear the myth caused by the rumours spread by various parties with vested interests with regard to Release of results by ICAI based on demand and supply factors.

It has never happened in the history of ICAI that a student, who is otherwise passing, has ever failed. Also, it is worthwhile to note that when economy was in the slowdown mode, the results were much better compared to the present when the economy is in much better shape. It clearly goes on to show that the results are based only on the performance of the students rather than any extraneous factors.

The CPT results, overall, are satisfactory but the better was expected. A total of 27.55% (35168) out of 127643 students have passed the examination.

What is heartening to note is the large number (43979) girls appearing for examination.

Not only this, the girls have outperformed boys with a pass percentage of 31.72% (13950) compared to 25.36% (21218) of the boys. We hope that the results will be even better in times to come.

 

OOPS....‘no’ means ‘next opportunity’ and the word‘end’ means ‘efforts never die’..... but we are dying day by day..... We worked so hard........but we didn't ....though we put all efforts, time, money ....... and we are loosing....................I request President to please re-appear the ca final exams....and  then pass with this low results.....

Nothing to speak.... totally disappointed.

what myth? that's a sastwaat satya; brahma satya. Mr president, if u wanna prove that this is a myth; then have a neutral party like Magistrate;Retd. justice;CBI(neutrality debated);CAG to conduct an extensive audit into the results and evaluation. Stories of academically good students failing can't be a fluke? How can pass percentage be so fluctuating? humm khotte nahin hai.

''President to please re-appear the ca final exams....and  then pass with this low results.....''

sahi kaha. sara galtiya ham main.   hum serious nahi hay.

u r r8 MR. President iss liya to CA parne aye hain.

".....................overdependence on private coaching................."


Why institute fails to come up with short-term policy of students future???

Students attend coaching classes only for the social part and to be competitive for their own future and they fail only because Students issues have become little business for body  politics.

Originally posted by : Narendra Kumar.T

 

OOPS....: ‘no’ means ‘next opportunity’ and the word‘end’ means ‘efforts never die’..... but we are dying day by day..... We worked so hard........but we didn't ....though we put all efforts, time, money ....... and we are loosing....................I request President to please re-appear the ca final exams....and  then pass with this low results.....

Nothing to speak.... totally disappointed.

hello mr president....

let me ask u a simple question sir...

nov 08 result of ca final was above 20% tht came down to 3.46% in just 3 attemps n hw one predict the result before declaration by ICAIwe all came to knw abt the result of nov 09 n may 10...

The level of knowledge expected in CA exams is "Proficient" , not  "Basic".  How do we become proficient? By repeatedly practicsing a subject at progressively higher and higher level till we reach a level where we can solve a problem (theoretical or in real life practice) probably 8/10 times. (If you get it right 5/10 times, it is not professional. Even a coin tossed repeatedly sufficiently large number of times will fall correctly 5/10 times. One reason why ICAI wanted us to do better than 5/10 or score more than 50%.

 

Also, CA course wasnever meant to be a class room course. ICAI has consistently maintained that. Practical training was the way they wanted students to lean and have been consistent about it. It will be sad if they decide to start class room training to compete with the coaching classes.

 

Coaching classes take away they thrill of self-learning, strugling to learn difficult concept on your own, referring various sources and basically being self-dependent. Coaching classes make students dependent, they make them believe that their notes are all that it takes for students to clear, they boast about their good results as they are in the business of  making money, and they keep conveniently quiet when their results are no better than all-india CA final results.

 

The best part is nobody blames the coaching classes for poor results after taking so much money and generally making studentsdependent on them and taking away the joy of self-learning. Imagine a CA who is a product of such dependent mind set generated by coaching classes facing problems in real life or in exam that have no answer in the short class notes and with no great Parag or other great Sir to help out in exam real life? How many of the students have evoked RTI against leading Coaching Classes for failing or for showing results not better than all-india results? ICAI is everybody's bhabhi and all you got to do is give her a bad name and hang it. What about these coaching classes?

 

Having said that let me also point out that neither reliance on ICAI study materials or a text book or guide or class material alone is a solution to passing. Also, how does one ensure that all these books and magazines and newspapers and various other things mentioned in BOS can be expected to be read for 8 varied subjects with full time practical training, commuting, coaching classes, etc.? And which CA firm can provide practical training in say, Accounts, Auditing, Direct Taxes, Indirect Taxes, Law, Computers and Computer Audit? If it can not be ensured that all-round practical training cannot be provided in all these subjects and at the same time a large chunk (almost 80 per cent) of a student's time is spent in doing, re-doing and repeatedly redoing and still more repeatedly re-doing routine audit or tax work without respite without transfer?

 

When  would the student get time to get practical training in other subjects where ICAI would ask practical question? When would he have time to read various sources of materials referred to in BOS 's advisory to answer the practical oriented questions that only a student who has undergone practical training can answer and a dummy cant?  In fact, it is this very catch 22 situation that is responsible for articles doing dummy or shifting t dummy in last years of their training. It in nice to have higher expectations from students, but is enough being done to provide them facilities and regulations to rise up to the challenge?

 

Also, how can the pass per centage fluctuate so widely from 28 per cent to 3.8% in 5 years? Why should CPT results be so flattering to deceive? It is heart breaking to see the CPT pass outs in larege numbers hopeful of becoming CA soon only to wake up to the sad reality of a camel passing through a needle hole with 3 per cent final CA results. How can someone who has scored Rank in PCC/CPT flunk in Final so miserably  or one who has scored say 55 in costing become so bad in next 6 months to get 35 marks? These are the questions that are not asked by idle minded and needs proper answer.


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