Gross injustice to PE-2 students

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Dear Professional friends,

Kindly take a look at the issues concerning PE-2 students .

We are a 150 member strong group of PE-2 students and have already presented these issues in front of the President of ICAI.

We need your support in the furtherance of this cause. Please send your comments at rajangupta84 @ hotmail.com


Issues relating to PE-2 students



Issue 1 : Long gestation period of 2 years for appearing in the final examination after passing PE-2


  • The time period of appearing in the final examination after clearing the PE-2 examination is unusually long, due to which the student gets stuck between theoretical and practical aspect of the course. As a result the duration of the course keeps on increasing if the student does not clear the PE-2 in a single attempt. The time period keeps on stretching like a rubber on every unsuccessful attempt of PE-2.

  • In contrast to this the Foundation scheme students as well as the CPT students, have got the benefit of carrying out their articleship along with PE-2 and PCC respectively due to which they get their final examination attempt much earlier than a PE-2 student.


  • After passing the PE-2 exam the student is in a dilemma due to which the continuity in the studies suffers a lot, as there is a long time period of 2 years for appearing in the final examination.


  • The unusual long wait of two years to appear in the final examination serves as a detrimental factor in the practical training of the student as well as the concentration level of the student towards studies.

  • The Institute taking a suo moto action reduced the time period of appearing in the final examination of PE-2 students from two and a half years to two years due to this . But still the wait is very long.


  • Further, the Institute has given guidelines to change the C.A. Final course structure and conducting the final examination in May 2010 as per the new syllabus without thinking of the consequences on PE-2 students registered under the old final scheme and their attempts due in May 2009 and Nov. 2009. If unsuccessful in two attempts they will have to reappear under the new final examination scheme and re prepare different subjects for final course.


  • It is most respectfully requested to give some equitable relief in comparison to foundation and CPT students, to PE-2 students by giving them a chance of appearing in the final examination, before completion of two years of their articleship “or” two years of completion to be reckoned from the attempt passed. For eg. If a student passes Nov 2006 he can be made eligible to appear for the final examination to be conducted in Nov. 2008.






Issue # 2: Starting of articleship for PE-2 students.


  • Students who have cleared one of the groups of PE-2 have not been given an opportunity to start their articleship though students of Foundation scheme as well as the new CPT scheme are eligible for articleship. A PE-2 student is being treated as secluded from the whole system. Though a CPT and foundation student are much lesser in knowledge , age and experience , even then untrained people are employed as articled clerks and PE-2 students just watch and wait.


  • Trained PE-2 passed students are also finding a lack of vacancy as CPT students are passing out in huge numbers and are being employed as articles. In a way PE-2 pass students are being treated equal to CPT students. As a result there is shortage of available seats for articles. Though the seat increase is underway but still supply of seats is far lesser than demand.


  • It is more humbly prayed to start the articleship of at least those PE-2 students who have passed one of the groups. In this way the time lag can be eliminated to some extent.



Keeping the above in view we sincerely hope that the Honorable President shall take cognizance of the above issues and try to resolve them in favour of the students.


Replies (28)
I dont disagree with you totally but neither do i agree... i am a cpt passed out student and i am eligible to write pcc exam after 1 and half year of article training.. but after that even i have to wait for 2 years for my final exam.. so the waiting time is same for both of us.. Ya i do agree to the fact that large no. of cpt students are clearing out which is surely creating a problem bcoz people of high calibre and talent are not able to get into good firms..
anupam, u are talkin as if PE2 students dont have to wait for a yr b4 appearing for PE2. Aftr passing PE1 or grads, we had to wait for a yr b4 attempting PE2. PE1 happened twice a yr, CPT happens four times a yr. So, dont even compare ur passing CPT and enrolling into PCC with a student enrolling into PE2. Just like PE1 cant b compared to CPT.
Thanks for your support
dear anupam, you have just entered into the C.A. jungle. You are still new to the profession.Go and ask PE-1 and PE-2 students who are victims of this policy. You should scientifically calculate the time period and then reply.. Anyways thank u very much for your comments
@ anupam arey chotu be cool it seems u dnt kno anything about old scheme U r a future CA. dnt comment w/o any knowledge on the issue
Hi Rajan, You can add up another issue to ur list:- The first CPT batch is going to clear out their Final, with PE-II, May 07 Batch!!!!!!. Which means again the Preference, at Campus interview, will be given to the First CPT batch students, as the will be passing from New final course, rather than us who will be old course students :::-(
I would like to thank Mr. Gupta for bringing this topic into the limelight. It is not fair that a person who has struggled for 2 years to complete PE2 has to compete with a person who has passed CPT for the same vacancy. With no offences to those who are registered under the CPT format, but it feels very disrespected when a PE2 student is compared with a CPT passed student. But I am glad that with the new format a lot of young talent is getting into our profession. I hope that the institute looks into this matter and comes up with a justified solution.
Even thou i am Cpt passed PCC student i feel the Point which Mr. Rajan brought out is extremly touchable and very important on view of old scheme student.. Mr Rajan ji can proceed forward and me along with my friends'll be on ur side, thank you
hi, i am also a CA final aspirant, n as u all have already talked much abt the sufferings of peII passed students, let me tell u tht my condition is much more severe......i belong to a small city,allahabad. here there isnt much varities of work, all the year round, we r burdened wth voucher feeding a a few account vouching works, coz my firm does not have much variety of work. i cannot change my firm coz tht implies a lot of paper work, n all the more, there r no vacancies for articles coz CPT s have flooded the whole CA firms atmosphere. let me tell u, the CA firms r even bargaining wth the PEII students , to take them as articles on the conditrions that they shall NOT ask for the stipend.......STIPEND...Rs.1000/- how much is it for a CA , but still , some of the articles r not been paid even this much, n i really feel sorry for those people, well , two years is really a good amount of time - i feel sometimes tht this articleship is jst a formality, how can u . some times it does assists in finals studies, but i feel , sometimes it really DOSENT...
hi, i m with u, jst tell me anytime what i can really put up from my side,.u can mail me at akhileshkant @ gmail.com or call me at 09889417477
yes, i support Rajan's cause. this issue has been neglected so far. its time to take a stand.
C.A.Inter- atricleship along with registration; P.E-II Registration --> passing examination --> enrolling 4 Final then articleship ; Now PCC -passing CPT (3months) --> enrolling 4 PCC + articleship --> after 18 months PCC exams --> enrolling 4 final after passing PCC. Why did the Istitute experiment with P.E-II students? I support Mr. Rajan's cause
even i support your cause.my future plans to do an mba are jeopardised by this 5yr. scheme.an entire year has been wasted for PE-2 students.ICAI should not experimented with students careers,they do not have the right to do that.
I would like to thank Mr. Gupta for bringing this topic into the limelight. It is not fair that a person who has struggled for 2 years to complete PE2. I hope that the institute looks into this matter and comes up with a justified solution. Thanks sachin


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