Future and option loss

In case of non salaried filing itr 4 opting 44ad and filing return as per old regime
if we have loss of 50000 in f&o and turnover is less than 50 lacs from f&o , and turnover from other business is less than 20 lacs, total turnover is 70 lacs approx from all business, is it compulsory to show loss and is there any requirement of tax audit in this case.?
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If you're filing ITR-4 under the presumptive taxation scheme (Section 44AD) and have losses in futures and options (F&O), you don't have to declare them. You can opt to show the presumptive profit (6% or 8%) instead, which also means no tax audit is required. If you wish to declare the actual F&O loss, you would need to file under ITR-3, though an audit would still not apply in this specific scenario.

if you are filing ITR-4, then you need to show 6 or 8% profit, as the the case may be. There is no compulsion to show loss. And if you are showing presumptive profit, there is no need for any audit anyway.


In case you choose to show actual loss, you need to file ITR-3. Audit won't apply in this case though. 

Sir
for regular business i will show 8%
but
in case of f&o we have loss of 50k and turnover 35 lacs so we have to show 8% of 35 lacs as profit ?

yes. if you wish to use the provisions of 44AD. but the profit percentage can be 6% as it is all digital transactions. 

You can opt for presumptive taxation for your regular business under Section 44AD, and separately declare a loss for futures and options (F&O) transactions by preparing a Profit & Loss statement and Balance Sheet. This approach does not necessitate a tax audit. 

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