Empanelment of Audit Work

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Dear Friends,
 
Today, when a new member comes in the practice, there is very little scope of work for him more particularly for members practicing in small cities.
 There is need for generating the practice work for new members and for the members practicing in small cities. There should be assurance of getting minimum practice work.
 
This is possible only when ICAI, our Council Members takes genuine steps in this regard by making empanelment for Statutory Audit of Companies and Tax Audits of other entities on the same pattern following in allotment procedure of bank audits.
 
Proposed Empanelment to be made:
1. For Listed companies to be made by SEBI
2. For Private/Public Ltd. Companies to be made by the ROC
3. For Tax Audits to be made by CBDT or Chief Commissioner of the region.
4. Any other audit work which is large in volume and under one authority,  by that 
      Authority,  not by calling tenders or quotations.
 
This is also necessary for following reasons:
We read two words in auditing one is Statutory Audit and other is Independence of Auditors
 
Statutory Audit: a statutory audit in true sense is when an auditor is appointed by the statutory body/authority. Auditor appointed by the board of directors or the assessee or owners, is not statutory auditor it may be internal auditor.
 
Independence of Auditors: freedom of the auditors will be maintained only when the auditors do not have any pressure form the assessee who is appointing them. It will be possible only when auditors would not be appointed by the board of directors or assessee itself.  Otherwise Satyam like episode will continue in future.
 
 
Benefits to Members/Institute:
  1. Fees level will be improve, as Fees will be decided on the basis of turnover criteria, by the Authority allotting the audit assignments.
  2. There will be no competition for Under Cutting of Fees by the Members.
  3. There will be no undue pressure from the Board of directors or clients to whom auditing as in case of Satyam.
  4. There will be improvement in keeping of books of accounts or other statutory records up to date, as the client does not know who will audit his books.
  5. There will be improvement in image of the auditors and reputation of the Institute at large, which is going down after SATYAM like scams.
  6. There will be practice work for new members who start his practice as will as for members who practice in small cities.
 
Dear friends, as you know election process in the ICAI is on full swing and it is right time that we take promise from our CC & NIRC candidates for implementing the above agenda as earliest. This is not an impossible task if our leaders put their efforts honestly.
 
Plz. forward this mail to other members by adding your suggestions/comments, if any, for the benefits of the members at large.
Replies (8)

THIS IS VERY GOOD, IT WILL PROVIDE FINANCIAL HELP TO NEW CA IN SETING UP THEIR PRACTICE

 Dear sir,

Your idea is good but..........

I doubt the members who have built empires with their reputation and experience will be willing to allow new people to enter their fortress.

Also it would be contradictory to the institutes own regulations like charges fee on the basis of turnover of the assesee.

It also takes away the independence of the assessee to chose his auditor -i.e. when an auditor from the panel is going to audit his business affairs.

There would be opposition from the business entities too since the auditor picksup many business secrets of his client during the course of his audit and so entities would be willing to disclose their business affairs only to a person they trust and not to an anonymous person with whom there is no guarantee that he will not disclose their business secrets to the rival business entities. 

so I am clearly against empanelment for statutory audits and tax audits of companies.

As regards getting sufficient work, this is a free world and there is competition everywhere. By giving audit work through empanelment it is against the spirit of free competiton. In the modern world ONLY WHO IS ABLE TO SUSTAIN EMERGES AS A WINNER.





 

 I feel the Institute has no business to protect the members by awarding work to its members. New members have to work their way by building clientale and have patience till such time they get enough work. patience is the virtue for the new members 

I am not agree with Harry,  there is no question of indepence of assessee to choose his auditors . there should be no option to the assessee to choose his auditor otherwise audit would not be independent , there will be obligaion on the auditors of the assessee for choosing him, and he may have undue pressure on him.

Here question is not to protect the new members, but to allot the  Statutory Audit on the same pattern as followed in Banks Audits.

Secondly, Auditors never disclose the scrects of the assessee to any other person.

I think  it is a matter that ICAI  can consider and make representation to the Govt.

 

Originally posted by :NEETU
" THIS IS VERY GOOD, IT WILL PROVIDE FINANCIAL HELP TO NEW CA IN SETING UP THEIR PRACTICE "


 

IF THE INSTITUTE WANTS TO PROVIDE FINANCIAL HELP TO NEW CAs, THEN IT CAN OPEN UP CHARITABLE TRUST TO HELP THE NEEDY.

BEING A PROFESSIONAL, HE SHOULD EARN HIS BREAD, THE INSTITUTE HAS NO BUSINESS TO PUT THE BREAD DIRECTLY INTO HIS MOUTH

Originally posted by :NEETU
" THIS IS VERY GOOD, IT WILL PROVIDE FINANCIAL HELP TO NEW CA IN SETING UP THEIR PRACTICE "


 

IF THE PERSON IS NOT CAPABLE OF EARNING HIS BREAD THROUGH PRACTICE THEN THERE ARE ALWAYS BETTER AVENUES FOR HIM IF HE JOINS FOR EMPLOYMENT

Auditing and Certification work is not like business or commerce category work

it's a media of creating fath between two or many person who do'nt have comlete access on all the informations releted to other but rely on the basis of few papers bearing signature of approved feternity.

an chartered accountant is given immence responsibilities and powers to play a creative role in the nation growth and we can play a miracal role in progress of our nation, our society.

the basic requirement is independence in work and quality of work

without fair empanelment process independence is doubtful

without sufficiency of work and remuration quality of work is doubtful

In real are we playing a creative role in the nation growth and positive progress of our nation, our society?

if we think honestly on it we will get the right answer.

"MISSION JEO AUR JEENE DO AAM CA KO"

 

The Idea of empanelment may be good for public sector undertakings . I tend to agree more with Harry.


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