Discussion,.CPT or PE-1?? your views

IN MY OPINION CPT HAS MADE A GOOOD AWARENESS REGARDING THE CA PROFESSION TO ALMOST EVERY STUDENT,..

BUT AT THE SAME TIME SOMEWHERE OR THE OTHER I FEEL C.A HAS LOST ITS GLORY A BIT AFTER INTRODUCTION OF CPT,....

PREVIOUSLY WHEN WE SAY THAT WE ARE STUDYING CA. PEOPLE JUST USED TO GIVE A "WOW" EXPRESSION,..

BUT NOWADAYS EVERWHERE I JUST HEAR THE SAME ECHO"CPT CPT CPT CPT",.IT HAS BECOME LIKE LKG AND UKG,...

ALSO EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS HAVE STARTED PUBLISHING CPT RANKS AND CLAIMING CA AS A VERY VERY EASY COURSE,..NOW THAT IS THE POINT WHERE I FEEL C.A CPT HAS CAUSED AN ADVERSE EFECT TO THE CA PROFESSION,...IN BUSES ,AUTO RIKSHAWAS,LOCAL CHANNELS ,HOARDINGS EVERYWHERE ONLY TERM I SEE IS "CPT"

I ALSO HOPE THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE AGAIN ICAI WILL SURELY THINK ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND MAKE A WISE DECISION,...

Nice discussion Bharath..CPT has provided lot of students into CA..but it is not at all effective..i agree only PE-1 which really tests the knoledge of the student who are capable to do CA.

CPT is not in equal quality that of PE-I

PE - 1 WAS VERY GOOD COMPARED TO CPT 

Originally posted by : Sasanka Bhalaki
	Nice discussion Bharath..CPT has provided lot of students into CA..but it is not at all effective..i agree only PE-1 which really tests the knoledge of the student who are capable to do CA.

Agree with this

CPT should be made tougher so that only deserving students get into CA course..bcoz  IPCC nd Final is way way tougher than CPT

pe- 1 was giving the good idea of this course to the students. but cpt is failed in this regard

I had given CPT the only thing i can say is CPT is not that easy . In PE 1 students were byhearting the answers but in CPT  they have to apply there knowledge for answereing

CPT was introduced by ICAI to catch the students at an early stage.  

.

Previously Management Courses were understood much better than  CA,CS and ICWA just because of their marketing strategy.

.

Then ICAI realized that their students and members lack only in Communication.

.

Hence it intrdouced compulsorily GMCS.

.

Now situations are different.

.

Except renowned MBA institutes; others MBA institutions are not able to manage (get) students !

.

These institutions are unable to pursuade students which they could before. At the time of global recession in 2008, more executors were required than the managers.

.

Qualified CAs, CSs, and CWAs can execute the work  with proper management also. 

.

CPT is to test the analytical skills of the students. 

.

In 2010, one student who scored IInd Rank in Gujarat in XII, could get only 65% in CPT. At the initial level of counselling, I recommend her to go for CS only because she was lacking in analytical skills. 

.

Till XII, questions papers cover book material only. Hence who do labour more, can score more.

.

This strategy is not successful in CPT. 

Originally posted by : Namrata
	I had given CPT the only thing i can say is CPT is not that easy . In PE 1 students were byhearting the answers but in CPT  they have to apply there knowledge for answereing

In PE 1 students were byhearting the answers

I dont agree with this statement.

Although CPT is not that much easy but it is easy as compared to PE1.

CPT was introduced just to increase number of students. And ICAI succeded in their motive and has got huge increase in their funds.

Originally posted by : CA SURENDRA KUMAR RAKHECHA
	CPT was introduced by ICAI to catch the students at an early stage.   . Previously Management Courses were understood much better than  CA,CS and ICWA just because of their marketing strategy. . Then ICAI realized that their students and members lack only in Communication. . Hence it intrdouced compulsorily GMCS. . Now situations are different. . Except renowned MBA institutes; others MBA institutions are not able to manage (get) students ! . These institutions are unable to pursuade students which they could before. At the time of global recession in 2008, more executors were required than the managers. . Qualified CAs, CSs, and CWAs can execute the work  with proper management also.  . CPT is to test the analytical skills of the students.  . In 2010, one student who scored IInd Rank in Gujarat in XII, could get only 65% in CPT. At the initial level of counselling, I recommend her to go for CS only because she was lacking in analytical skills.  . Till XII, questions papers cover book material only. Hence who do labour more, can score more. . This strategy is not successful in CPT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR UR VALUABLE COMMENTS SIR,...

ICAI WILL SURELY LOOK OVER THIS ISSUE IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND MAKE SUITABLE CHANGES IN MY OPINION,...

Agree with u Bharath ..

CPT has realy become very common with students

& CA has also LOST  it's CHARM which it had Previously had also with regards to PASSING PERCENTAGE ....

ANY TIME  " PE -1 "  IS  BETTER ...

Agree with sir in this regard bcoz i've seen students getting 80-90% in GSEB & failing in CPT.

CPT tests the analytical and the conceptual part.

I dont know much about PE1 but still CPT cant be said as a useless thing.

Yes improvments can be made in the QA part and the drafting of the papers.

Originally posted by : CA SURENDRA KUMAR RAKHECHA
	CPT was introduced by ICAI to catch the students at an early stage.   . Previously Management Courses were understood much better than  CA,CS and ICWA just because of their marketing strategy. . Then ICAI realized that their students and members lack only in Communication. . Hence it intrdouced compulsorily GMCS. . Now situations are different. . Except renowned MBA institutes; others MBA institutions are not able to manage (get) students ! . These institutions are unable to pursuade students which they could before. At the time of global recession in 2008, more executors were required than the managers. . Qualified CAs, CSs, and CWAs can execute the work  with proper management also.  . CPT is to test the analytical skills of the students.  . In 2010, one student who scored IInd Rank in Gujarat in XII, could get only 65% in CPT. At the initial level of counselling, I recommend her to go for CS only because she was lacking in analytical skills.  . Till XII, questions papers cover book material only. Hence who do labour more, can score more. . This strategy is not successful in CPT.

Hi friends,

Obiviously PE 1  is better than CPT.....CPT was introduced only to attract students...

The real toughness in CA can be experienced only In IPCC and Final....

By considering CPT students are entering in to CA course  but unable to clear IPCC and most of them are quitting CA...

The real worh  of the student comes out only thru PE 1 or similar type of exams not with CPT..