Originally posted by : Faiz Ahmed
Originally posted by : sahil schroff
ashish some people believe their beloved institute can do no wrong, that's why!
Its not the question of loving the institute or not.
Even if I agree for 1 moment that result have been manipulated, which many people say that ICAI has got powers to do so BUT.....
Do I agree that ICAI did this to spoil the business of coaching. Nobody is such a big fool to comment like this on public forum. Will you after doing a wrong thing come out and confess. Only a fool of 1st degree will do that. What he will get by passing such comments?? Leave aside all emotions and Knee-jerk reactions, ICAI believes in quality and I believe its being delivered through its exams. Many people comment its because of ICAI policy , I have not cleared. To talk bluntly, they are merely hiding their mistakes/failure. When some people passed they sing song for ICAI. When they fail, all sort of lame excuses will come out and people will appreciate that.
Why people who fail don’t think they are not upto mark or they don’t have quality. They should think how to be in that 3% or 10% criteria, rather than shifting blame to others. There are many CA’s who have qualified who are not aware of AS according to expectation. I am pointing towards those who have cleared in more no. of attempts. May be even 1st attempter are not aware.Its because of not learning properly they fail. Just see the paper of a ranker, how well its presented. Many people have got 100 in Accounts in CA, how wonderful the paper looks. Its just how we work on certain things helps rather than crying over your mistakes by shifting the blame. Its all about continously learning..
When a paper is over for CA, many people discuss it(good habbit)… but I am sure after that paper only they know their real worth. Please don’t talk about B.com, its like estimating goodwill by simple avg. method. The real worth / value is known by intrinsic method. This intrinsic method is used in CA. ICAI was formed to create professionals(many people have forgotten), and not to equal the balance machine with that of B.com.
I am not against coaching, but I am against spoon feeding. Many students what they do is just do some sums of some famous faculty and try to vomit it in exams, though that vomitting sensation may even not come in CA exams. One should make his own notes and not merely download/ copy it from someone. By not making notes , one is locking his brain with godrej locks. Learning is much more than that. Real learning lies in self-study only. No doubt it takes time, but the real thinking power comes out. Its good to learn some concepts from good faculty…. Unfortunately, many coaching places are for money only. Thousands of students will be dumped in one single room like grains. There what happens, many young boys will be much more aware than me. I have seen so many fantastic and mind blowing personality on CCI from whom I have learnt something. If you ask them from where they got so much knowledge, they will tell , its through self exploration of subject with some help from good faculty. Join coaching to learn something not to depend upon them. One should be only dependent on capabilities of his brain(use it). All great things were explored through mind only. Be a good observer.
I would just say – One should work sincerely towards his/her goal. Rest leave it to God. Real Knowledge is never a waste. There is no use cribbing against CA Amarjit Chopra or any one else. Crib only when you are able to say that you have done to the best of your ability according to the demands of CA course(Quality is the key word).
Nobody is playing with us. Its we who play with our career. Knowing very well what CA course needs, still we don't work accordingly. No one should worry about the Economy now. Dr. Manmohan Singh is there to take care of it. He or India needs quality professionals and not any half baked pastry. India would love to have knowledgeable CA's along with integrity. They don't need any CA to bring any ASATYAM to our nation.
My kind request to everyone, think over it. Just introspect what wrong has been done by each one of us and what we can do to correct it in practical manner. I am not sorry to make the above comments as sorry has become a license to do wrong thing. I am sure whatever i said is true and correct.(keeping my hand on my heart)
I Agree with you on everything u have mentioned. Even agreed that our President did not make such comment. But there is one thing i cant agree with u, & I am confident that this time the results were fabricated to a certian extent. Be it, becauz of coaching classes, or any other reason, but the fact remains the same. Do u really think 3-4 % people had studied wat was needed to be studied??, and the rest were fools? i know many students had not given the best of their efforts, many hadnt taken it seriously, many lack writing power, many does not have proper exam temprmnt,... etc. But does those serious people comprise of only a meagre 3-4%???? can you answer this by keeping ur hand on ur heart???
Off course one shud try and be in those 3-4% students who actually passed,, But u know wat, its really easier said than done.im not trying to offend you my friend, nor anyone else, but i have seen many of my friends who are defintly sincere, and had sacrificed every comfort and luxury of life and worked really hard for the last 10 months. After the exam one of them solved the entire Tax paper for me, which was almost 80% correct[ as per RTP] and he got 32.
as it is said," once is happntance, twice is co-incidence, but thrice is defntly enemy action.
Seeing so many instances i am forced to think that something is wrong up there.
[ No offence please]