Centralised Allotment of Tax , Conc. ; Stat. Bank Audit

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Are you in favour of Centralised Allotment of Tax Audit, Concurrent Bank Audit and Statutory Bank Audit (Please note that power has been withdrawn from RBI. Now the banks appoint their own Auditors, which is a matter of concern) ?

If yes, then please visit   www.icai.org.in ,  Click on Discussion Forum  (Audit Section) . Register yourself (right hand upper corner) by creating your own Username & Password. Then Login by using same username & password. Click on Topic "Centralised  Allotment of Tax Audit ..............." and Vote as YES , I FULLY AGREE by Clicking on the round button .









 A WAKE UP CALL-----CENTRALISED ALLOTMENT OF TAX AUDIT

Dear Professional Colleagues,

A few years back one of the  council members informed that the following proposal is being discussed in the council .The proposal was :-

---Tax audits will be alloted every year by an independent body consisting of members from ICAI and MOF.

--- The client will not have any say in the appointment of Auditor.

---The client will  deposit  fee ( in challan) with that INDEPENDENT BODY.  according to the over  slabs ( as decided by ICAI ) depending upon the Turnover.

--- Auditor will receive fee from the  Independent Body. 









Benefits of Implementing the above Proposal :-

1.     -- There will be equal distribution of work.

2.      -- The quality of Audit will be ensured.

3.      -- Even the juniors/freshers will be getting their due share in the professional work.

4.      -- Advocates in the I. Tax practice will not be able to make a joke of our profession.

5.      -- Every CA will be getting  Minimum standard rather handsome fee.

6.      -- No dependency on the client for fee or next year appointment.

7.      -- Independence , Integrity and Excellence will be ensured. Till today it is only on the walls.

8.      -- We will get a chance to work HONESTLY.

9.      -- Juniors/ freshers will not have to do MERCY audits.

10.  -- It will be in the best interest of our profession as a whole, especially for the future generations.

11.  -- The audit reports will  be worth reading and implementing.

12.  -- Last minute rush of clients, resulting in total compromise of integrity and excellence, can be avoided.  As we      will be able to dictate our own time bound schedule of audit work.

13.  -- We will be able to get and maintain all the working papers which are needed to be shown when we are             called upon  to do so.

14.  -- The above proposals can be implemented in any type of audit may even be Company Audits through MCA



ABOVE ALL WE WILL ENJOY WORKING PEACE FULLY RATHER THAN UNDER PRESSURE.

QUESTIONs TO BE ASKED FORM OUR  own conscience?

Are  we  Independent ?

Are  we  not compromising our own Integrity ?

Are we putting in our  Excellence  with which we  have been bestowed upon by the GOD ?

Are we not being made a part , in creating Black money in the country ?

Are we not being made victims for the faults done by the Business community, remember Satyam Episode?

 

-------One day we all have to face the almighty GOD ?    Are we ready for that?----------

Minimum earning of every CA will rise to 12-15 Lacs (Non- Metro Rates). In Metro Cities it will be much more.

Calculation is as follows: 



Tax & Vat Audit.....Rs. 9.0Lacs {45 *20000/-(12500+7500)} 

Stat. Bank Audit... Rs. 1.5 Lacs { Appx.} 

Concurrent Audit...Rs. 1.0 Lacs {Appx.} 

Income Tax Work..Rs. 1.5 Lacs { Appx.} 

CO.Audit .............Rs. 1.5 Lacs { Appx.} 

Misc. work.............Rs. 0.5Lacs { Appx.} 

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TOTAL RS.............Rs. 15.0 Lacs 

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If we take up the matter unitedly , this will  definitely be implemented. This is not only in  the best interest of our own profession's survival  but the country as a whole.

Please discuss and  give suggestions for implementation..

 AWAKEND CAs GROUP

 

Replies (10)

yes, fully agree....................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thank you sir. i am agree. it will help newly qualified CAs who are struggling and have enough time to give their best and meet their duties honestly.

The copy of the RTI reply is being attached herewith for the kind consideration of the members.

ICAI has confirmed through the RTI reply that the issue of "CENTRALISED  ALLOTMENT of  TAX AUDITS"  was discussed in the CC meetings held in the month of DECEMEBER, 2001. The issue was voted against by the CC members on the plea that there was no complaint against the present system and members were doing audits independently.
 

However, the facts revealed by the members during the last 2 months in the yahoo group discussion after " A WAKE UP CALL" show altogether a different picture. Perhaps CC members are unaware of the facts that Tax Audit Report is available for Rs.500/- each. Also it is not easy to digest that if there was no complaint against the present system and members were feeling independent while auditing, then what was the need to discuss this issue in CC meeting. What made (rather compelled) our then respected CC members to take this issue on the agenda?

 

Message from ICAI President:-

 

Dear Professional Colleague,

As you must be aware, recently the ICAI had represented before Central
Board of Direct Taxes (CBDT) seeking tax audit data based on returns e-filed
during the year 2010-11. I would like to inform you that in response to the
representation made to CBDT, the ICAI has been provided with the data
relating to number of tax audits conducted by the members along with the
membership numbers of the tax auditors.
As per the data provided, the total number of tax audit returns filed in
respect of the financial year 2010-11 was 16, 16,096 which were
conducted by 59,472 auditors. The data so provided is being further
processed with regard to fake membership numbers, membership numbers
which exceeded the specified number (ceiling) of tax audit assignments, etc.
In order to prevent misuse of membership numbers of tax auditors,
we have been given assurance that from next year onwards the
uploading of tax audit report along with digital signatures would be
made mandatory.

Further, the ICAI has also suggested that on the basis of data of practicing
Chartered Accountants provided by ICAI, a user id and a password may be
made available to all practicing members so that they can view all the tax
audit reports uploaded in their name, which in turn would further curb the
malpractice of misusing the details of member by the assessee. A tax audit
not done by the member may be then reported by him to the Income-tax
Department for the action at its end.
The said suggestion found favor with the Department which has assured that
the idea would be taken forward for further consideration. I would also
request you to kindly provide your valuable suggestion(s) to curb the
malpractices being followed further in this regard.
As regards the data being processed, we would keep you posted.

Warm Regards,

CA. G. Ramaswamy
President
The Institute of Chartered Accountants of India

 

Dear All,

My Heartiest Congratulations! to all of you.

As per a letter (copy enclosed) received from the ICAI President, your suggestions (copy enclosed) sent as " PRE- BUDGET  MEMORANDA"  to ICAI's  Central Direct Taxes & Indirect Taxes Committee have been given due consideration by the committee. Out of the FOUR suggestions THREE ( ISSUE No: 2, 3 & 4) have been accepted by ICAI in toto. Matter has been represented by ICAI before  the CBDT. CBDT has assured  implementation of these suggestions.

Applauds  for  your  efforts  and  show  of  unity.

However, don't stop here. The major issue of Centralised Allotment of Tax and other audit assignments is still pending.

I assure all of you that the issue of Centralised Allotment of Tax and other audit assignments will also be given due consideration by the ICAI in near future. The only need is to remain UNITED and have patience. India was not free overnight. This issue is very crucial . It will change the very meaning of CA.

Please remain united. UNITED WE RISE DIVIDED WE FALL. You and only you can do it.

Come on the common platform created for this purpose. JOIN Awakened CAs Group ( yahoo Groups) show your UNITY.

 

For joining the group , please visit group site in yahoo groups or send a BLANK Email  

 

at

 

Awakenedcas-subscribe @ yahoogroups.co.in

 

and follow the next instructions to join.( to be sent by Yahoo Customer Care ! )

 

 

Provide your NAME, ADDRESS, M. NO:, EMAIL, MOBILE NO: in the relevent box for approval of the requests to join.

 

Also concentrate on the VOTING at www.icai.org.in. Your voting in large numbers, in favour of the issue will ensure its early implementation.

Please spread the message of voting to all your CA colleagues.

Thanks a lot for your Cooperation.          

CA M.S.BHATIA

JALANDHAR

PUNJAB

(09855209344)

 

LETTER  FROM THE PRESIDENT OF ICAI  CA G.RAMASWAMY

Dear Professional Colleague,

As you must be aware, recently the ICAI had represented before Central Board of Direct Taxes (CBDT) seeking tax audit data based on returns e-filed during the year 2010-11. I would like to inform you that in response to the representation made to CBDT, the ICAI has been provided with the data relating to number of tax audits conducted by the members along with the membership numbers of the tax auditors.

As per the data provided, the total number of tax audit returns filed in respect of the financial year 2010-11 was 16, 16,096 which were conducted by 59,472 auditors. The data so provided is being further processed with regard to fake membership numbers, membership numbers which exceeded the specified number (ceiling) of tax audit assignments, etc. 

In order to prevent misuse of membership numbers of tax auditors, we have been given assurance that from next year onwards the uploading of tax audit report along with digital signatures would be made mandatory.

Further, the ICAI has also suggested that on the basis of data of practicing Chartered Accountants provided by ICAI, a user id and a password may be made available to all practicing members so that they can view all the tax audit reports uploaded in their name, which in turn would further curb the malpractice of misusing the details of member by the assessee. A tax audit not done by the member may be then reported by him to the Income-tax Department for the action at its end.

The said suggestion found favor with the Department which has assured that the idea would be taken forward for further consideration. I would also request you to kindly provide your valuable suggestion(s) to curb the malpractices being followed further in this regard.

As regards the data being processed, we would keep you posted.


Warm Regards,


CA. G. Ramaswamy
President
The Institute of Chartered Accountants of India

 


PRE-BUDGET SUGGESTIONS SENT BY ALL OF YOU TO ICAI

 

To

The Chairman,

The Central Direct Taxes & Indirect Taxes Committee,

Institute of Chartered Accountants Of India,

New Delhi.

 

            SUB:- SUGGESTIONS FOR PRE-BUDGET MEMORANDA ON DIRECT TAXES -2012

Dear Sir,

            I hereby make following suggestions relating to POLICY matters and PROCEDURAL matters :-

 

ISSUE No: 1

 

ISSUE : INDEPENDENCE , INTEGRITY AND EXCELLENCE are integral parts of an AUDIT function. But while doing TAX AUDITS u/s 44AB of the Income Tax Act, 1961 ,  an auditor   never feels to be an independent as the  appointment is made by the CLIENT . Auditor is also  dependent on the client for fee too . In such a situation Auditor cannot work with the EXELLENCE he/she is  expected to put in the Audit  work,  being done on behalf of the Income Tax department.

 

SUGGESTION Allotment of TAX AUDIT should be made by some Independent Agency in consultation with ICAI and Income Tax Department. Every Assessee liable to get his accounts audited to inform Income Tax Department by making a DECLARATION that he is required to get his/her accounts audited u/s 44AB , within 30 days from the end of the Financial Year.

 

RATIONALE  : 

a) This will ensure INDEPENDENCE , INGERITY and EXCELLENCE in the audit work. Which may further lead to INCREASE in TAX REVENUES due to better vigil by Auditors.

b) The job assigned by Income Tax Department can only be justified, if Tax Audit is allotted by some Independent Agency, without any interference of the Assessee.

 

ISSUE NO.2

 

ISSUE : Name of the CA firms being  used, by some professionals (NON-CA), fraudulently in the Income Tax Returns without their knowledge resulting in Fake Tax Audits. This defeats      the very purpose of the TAX AUDITS

           

SUGGESTION : The income Tax return of the Auditee should be digitally signed by both the Auditee and Auditor.

 

RATIONALE :  This will help in restricting the fraudulent use of CA firm's name.

 

ISSUE NO: 3

 

ISSUE : Income Tax Returns being  uploaded by some professionals even without conducting the          audits  before the due date.

           

SUGGESTION : The scanned copy of Audit Report in the PDF format should be uploaded along with the return of income tax,  just as in the case of Annual Return being uploaded on the MCA site.

 

RATIONALE :  This will ensure that a proper audit has been conducted and TAX AUDIT report has  been obtained by the Auditee before the due date of return.

 

ISSUE NO: 4

           

ISSUE : Audits being conducted by CAs in excess of the prescribed limit of 45 Tax Audits.

 

SUGGESTION :  Facility on NSDL site,  should be provided , whereby every CA can see the number of TAX Audits conducted in his name, by putting in his membership no: and password. The ICAI may also be provided same facility to see the number of TAX AUDITS conducted by each CA.

 

RATIONALE : This will help in  monitoring the TAX AUDIT limit of 45 tax Audits, effectively. This is necessary to ensure QUALITY in Audit work.

 

Above suggestions , if implemented, will go along a way in uplifting the image of the profession.

 

Thanking You.

 

Yours Sincerely,

 

Name :

Membership No:

CITY:

 

 

 

Respected Mr. CA M.S.BHATIA

I am very happy to know that you and our professional collegue has taken a very valuable effort to retain our profession as prestigious profession.

I am 100% agree for that issue and also let know to all the professional collegue that A fresher Chartered Accountants is Facing horrible fear now a days to enter into the practice not because they have a lack of knowledge but only because of how to get a client.

Regards

CA. Govind Agarwal

Dear Govind Ji,

You are absolutely right. Our elected representatives are not willing to even listen to the problems being faced by members. Time and again they remind us to form Partnerships. But partnerships are not feasible in small cities. And also where is work, for even partnerships, untill you have some relation with CC members or one of you relative is on the helm of affairs.

I am afraid , where the strong army of 6 lacs CA  students will go. 90% students of who appeared for campus interview remained unemployed. No scope in the practice. No arrangement by ICAI to absorb them in the profession. Their share being eaten away by dirty fishes in our own profession. No bank audit to freshers for first 5 years on the one hand and keeping 12000 bogus CA firms on the panel is all the handy work of a our..............   Our representatives choose to remain mum, whenever any question is asked about it. In my 20 years practice, I have seen that the policies are made to suit the big fishes only, totally ignoring the interests of the SMEs.

This is the high time to come together. Force the ICAI to centralise the allotment of various audits to ensure Independence, Excellence and Integrity in the Audit function.

Please VOTE at www.icai.org.in

Also Join Awakened CAs' Group  ( in Yahoo groups)

Spread the message of voting and joining the group. Only with great strength of members , we can compel ICAI to listen to us.

Thanks!!! 

 

 

Institute should take up this matter on priority. Big and Old CA firms are always preferred in Govt./Bank Audits. Most of the tenders are reserved to firms, say having 5 FCAs as partners, Yearly Turnover of Rs. 1 crores for last 3 F.Y.s. Senior members of the profession always persue youngsters to join them. They never ask them to start their firm on their own. Most of the big firms need young CAs for audit empanelment and for increasing their audit limits. They have nothing to do with the quality of audit they do. Because of this the quality of audit has declined and audit reports have lost their importance.

Institute should take up this matter on priority. Big and Old CA firms are always preferred in Govt./Bank Audits. Most of the tenders are reserved to firms, say having 5 FCAs as partners, Yearly Turnover of Rs. 1 crores for last 3 F.Y.s. Senior members of the profession always persued youngsters to join them. They never ask them to start their firm on their own. Most of the big firms need young CAs for audit empanelment and for increasing their audit limits. They have nothing to do with the quality of audit they do. Because of this the quality of audit has declined and audit reports have lost their importance.


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