Can a loss return be filed belatedly u/s 139(4)

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S. 80 requires that if loss has to be carried forward it has to be determined in pursuance of a return filed u/s 139(3). The words “within the time allowed u/s 139(1)” have been deleted from S. 80 long back.

 
S. 139(3) requires that if a person has sustained loss and claims that loss to be carried forward, may furnish a return of loss, within the time allowed u/s 139(1), and the provisions of Act shall apply as if it was filed u/s 139(1).
 
Section 139(4) requires that any person who has not furnished a return within the time allowed u/s 139(1), or within the time allowed in the notice u/s 142(1), may furnish the return at any time before the expiry of one year from the end of the relevant assessment year or before the completion of the assessment, whichever is earlier.
 
Let us examine the word “a return”: -
The word “a return” used in S. 139(4) does not specifically exclude the return filed u/s 139(3).
The word “a return” in its large connotation also includes the loss return u/s 139(3).
It can also be said that the word “a return” here means any return, which is supposed to be filed within the time allowed u/s 139(1), or within the time allowed in the notice u/s 142(1).
 
Since loss return u/s 139(3) is required to be filed within the time allowed u/s 139(1), and S. 139(4) provides for belated filing of a return not filed u/s 139(1) or notice u/s 142(1), it can be said that loss return u/s 139(3) is also file able belatedly u/s 139(4).
 
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No because Section 139(3) requires the return to be filed within the time limit specified in section 139(1) and does not mention anywhere that the same can be belatedly filed u/s 139(4). So loss return can be filed belatedly but the loss cannot be carried forward to future years to be set off against future income.

ya belated filling of return of loss is allowed but its carry forward is not allowed i.e it can not be set off in next year the same can be set off against current year income from any other source

If there is loss of house property income Head then there is provision in  act that the house property loss carried forward even return is belated

yes loss from house property and depreciation loss can carried forward even if return filed late as the same are not listed in Section 139(3)

Originally posted by :Hema
" ya belated filling of return of loss is allowed but its carry forward is not allowed i.e it can not be set off in next year the same can be set off against current year income from any other source "

Opinion of Aditya is perfect...

 

Yes Loss return can b filed belatedly u/s 139(4)

but 1 has 2 kip in mind dat loss will b allowed 2 b set off only wen return is filed

yes loss can be carried forward only in certain cases..................

loss return must be filed within time to carry forward those loss....loss from HP and Unabsorbed depn can be carried forward even if the return is not filed within time but it should be filed....

Originally posted by :Aditya Maheshwari
" No because Section 139(3) requires the return to be filed within the time limit specified in section 139(1) and does not mention anywhere that the same can be belatedly filed u/s 139(4). So loss return can be filed belatedly but the loss cannot be carried forward to future years to be set off against future income. "


 

Dear Aditya,

I mean to say that the word "a return" used in S. 139(4) has general connotation, and it embarrass all the returns, which are supposed to be filed within the time allowed  u/s 139(1)  e.g. the returns filed u/s 139(1) / (3) / (4A) / (4B) / (4C) / (4D) can be filed belatedly u/s 139(4). The returns filed u/s 139(4A) / (4B) / (4C) / (4D) are also required to be filed within the time allowed u/s 139(1), and If your version is accepted, these returns can also not be filed belatedly, Otherwise, you are kindly requested to elaborate the meaning of the word "a return" used in S. 139(4).

Originally posted by :Surinder
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Originally posted by :Aditya Maheshwari


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No because Section 139(3) requires the return to be filed within the time limit specified in section 139(1) and does not mention anywhere that the same can be belatedly filed u/s 139(4). So loss return can be filed belatedly but the loss cannot be carried forward to future years to be set off against future income.
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Dear Aditya,
I mean to say that the word "a return" used in S. 139(4) has general connotation, and it embarrass all the returns, which are supposed to be filed within the time allowed  u/s 139(1)  e.g. the returns filed u/s 139(1) / (3) / (4A) / (4B) / (4C) / (4D) can be filed belatedly u/s 139(4). The returns filed u/s 139(4A) / (4B) / (4C) / (4D) are also required to be filed within the time allowed u/s 139(1), and If your version is accepted, these returns can also not be filed belatedly, Otherwise, you are kindly requested to elaborate the meaning of the word "a return" used in S. 139(4).
 

 

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Section 139(4) states as under
(4) Any person who has not furnished a return within the time allowed to him under sub-section (1), or within the time allowed under a notice issued under sub-section (1) of section 142, may furnish the return for any previous year at any time before the expiry of one year from the end of the relevant assessment year or before the completion of the assessment, whichever is earlier :
Provided that where the return relates to a previous year relevant to the assessment year commencing on the 1st day of April, 1988, or any earlier assessment year, the reference to one year aforesaid shall be construed as a reference to two years from the end of the relevant assessment year.]
So if return has not been furnished u/s 139(1) then the same can be furnished u/s 139(4) and the words "a return" refers to normal return and return of income is filed u/s 139(1) if filed in time and u/s 139(4) if filed belatedly. 

 

Originally posted by :Trinath
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Originally posted by :Hema


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ya belated filling of return of loss is allowed but its carry forward is not allowed i.e it can not be set off in next year the same can be set off against current year income from any other source
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Yes..........Return of loss can be filled Beletedly u/s 139(4) . U can set off any current year loss.but can not settoff and carryforward current year loss to next year ,becouse Sec.80 creat barrier for u....

Any assesee for avoiding penalty u/s 271f or other must file return of loss beletedly in some cases...

delay in making refund claim as well as claim of carry forward of losses, both, can be condoned in cases where returned income is a loss, provided other conditions are satisfied. The monetary limits prescribed for condonation of delay in making refund claims, by different IT authorities, will apply to condonation of delay in cases of claim of carry forward of losses as well.

Circular : No. 8/2001, dated 16-5-2001.

 


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