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Sids (ARTICLESHIP) (181 Points)
Replied 23 July 2010

Originally posted by : SAN...

THANKS TO DEAR SURENDRA RAKECHA SIR FOR YOUR MOTIVATION..

PLEASE KEEP GUIDING US.................

 

THANKS ONCE AGAIN


seeker (JUNIOR OFFICER) (227 Points)
Replied 23 July 2010

 

Sir

 

 

I feel elated as you tried to improvise on my base data. It was your discussion with Krunal Sharma and Jose panesar on quality of CA Course that motivated me to take interest in this forum and prepare for CPT.

 

Thereafter I found your presence in forum negligible, Some time back I read about you of  taking some position in Gujrat State ICAI, I congratulate you on that responsibility wish you can take the inputs of this forum to the authorities.

 

I believe this forum fulfills the gap that exists for students of indirect education mode. For example I just learnt from you  theoreatical part is equally important in case of cost and accounts as the practical part.

 

I request you to be present at the forum regularly. Special thanks for your appearance at the time of such a inspiring result as personality like you can work as a moral lifting light in the darkness of failure.

 

One earthern lamp can defeat the sea of darkness.

 

One more thing I have not found you ever  of agreeing with any of suggestion related to functioning of ICAI, I like this stand of yours and have a secret  desire of getting in to a intense argument with you on this area..

 

At present I do not find myself eligible for that argument with a towring personality like you as I am just going for IPCC.

 

Please be there regularly in forum.

 

Well it is difficult to have interaction with the people like you . I am tempted to utilize this opportunity , If you have time kindly , otherwise you can ignore it as Authorities in my country has always done with masses :-

 

Also forgive me for any wrong statement :-

 

A). Transparancy – There is a merit list in CAT, CEET. PMT or any engineering ,medical exam, There students gets the actual feedback of their performance.

 

But in ICAI student’s result is controlled by delibrately decreasing their marks, do you justify this act. If this does not fall in the category of cruelty. Autocracy.

 

I Suggest ICAI should display actual result and number of  students to be taken should be declared well  before exam 2.-3 months ago. so that students should know in advance level of difficulty

 

This is called transparency and fair game played by honest people

 

 

 

B). Just assume the GOD IS GREAT as your son and feel his pain. He is totally frustrated and lost the desire to pursue further.

 

He is trapped there is no return back after investing 4 deciding years of life in a developing over populated country India.

 

If only Article ship starts after completion of Finals He could have changed his course in first year itself  but he carried on with system of articleship . System got cheap educated man power and precious youth will go into middle age as dejected, frustrated soul without enjoying the springs of youth.

 

CA course is less important than M.B.B.S, There internship starts after 4 years. Then why not in ICAI.

 

Lust for Cheap man power, myopic people . They should employ people ( Accounts Asst. Staff )   and cover the cost from companies instead of expoilating innocent articles.

 

C ). I am yet to satisfy myself how ICAI manage to give training to different Articles during their training period.

 

How he checks if students has got training in every aspect of his course auditing , taxation, etc etc and etc

 

Urgent attention needed on this phase, who will train, What will he train and how will hetrain what is his infrastruture, how icai will moniter. Big silence

 

D). I sincerely feel english language paper should be added in CPT, It is in Compulsery in CAT.

 

Last but not least

 

If a course has the potential  to open 50 different emloyment avenues as per your statement still that course does not give employment guarantee , Then one can only imagine how badly that course designed, crafted and  managed .

 

 

One last suggestion – This is time of specialization why not divide course in two parts

 

 

One for metro students aiming for MNC remove article ship part and make them best Finance professional of the world at par with IIM. Deprive them from statutory powers any way they do not utilize it.

 

Iind for hard core chartered accountant , lengthy course with articleship starting after competion of final.

 

This is enough for now.

 

 

 

I just have to add for your 50 employment avenues statement

 

SOME THING FOR EVERY THING PRODUCE NOTHING.

 

Your are free not to respond. Today I finished one of my desire.

 

I KNOW NONE OF THESE THINGS GOING TO HAPPEN AS NEXT FIVE YEAR THERE IS NO CHANGE AND MOREEVER THEY HAVE TO TAKE PERMISSION FROM PARLIAMENT TO CHANGE ACT

 

WAIT  FOR  OPENING UP OF EDUCATION SECTOR, LET THE BIG FOREIGN UNIVERSITY TO COME THEN SLEEPING PEOPLE WILL AWAKE

 

BUT IT WILL BE VERY LATE THEN.

 

IF YOU DO NOT VALUE THE LIFE OF STUDENT ONE DAY YOU WILL LOOSE YOUR CREDIBILITY, RESPECT AND EVERY THING.

 

 

Regards.

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God is great (CA final student) (73 Points)
Replied 23 July 2010

Dear Argumentative Indian,

Firstly my salutations for you, I could not thank you because my system is showing some javascriptt error, sorry for that.

"Just assume the GOD IS GREAT as your son and feel his pain. He is totally frustrated and lost the desire to pursue further".

Thank you for your concern towards me.


God is great (CA final student) (73 Points)
Replied 23 July 2010

Read my Forum thread

" Do we need more stringent entry into CA"

share your views for the sake of Future CA students.


seeker (JUNIOR OFFICER) (227 Points)
Replied 23 July 2010

Dear Friend

 

I was just thinking about you, I request you to appear next time with double hard work.

Please read phir bhi dil mange ca, I wrote it after reading your first message

There is a light after every darkness. they himself have predicted shorage of CA in coming times morever Indian economy growin at the rate of 10 % will boom only in coming years that too on shoulders of people like you.

do not loose heart it is timely slump be focussed who knows next year it will 30 % , after all how can economy sustain without support of educated skilled people.

In the end again

Love the course do not hate it  success will come automatically to you.

look for perfection owning the contents of material, be owner of course not treat it as tenant I mean just for passing.

I hope success god will knock at your door next time and ask how much marks you want.

 

regards

 

 

 

 




God is great (CA final student) (73 Points)
Replied 23 July 2010

My only suggestion to ICAI is

putup a board outside every branch of ICAI as

" FOR INTELLIGENTS ONLY" with a danger sign

so that people like me will be cautioned properly before entering the premises of the great ICAI office.

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seeker (JUNIOR OFFICER) (227 Points)
Replied 23 July 2010

who say ICAI Need intelligent people

 

they need hard worker not intelligent people

Intelligent people nowdays goes to engineering mba or medicine

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God is great (CA final student) (73 Points)
Replied 23 July 2010


Rajiv (Finance) (200 Points)
Replied 24 July 2010

Have Faith in God. Because he considers you great.


seeker (JUNIOR OFFICER) (227 Points)
Replied 24 July 2010

Sir

 

I have not read your views on thread ICAI Should be ashamed of itself

You have analysed the problem very well, what I have said in my previous mail that you do not accept the improvement ideas. I take that allegation back.

Please ignore that.

regards

 




CA. Shwetank Vats (Chartered Accountant) (653 Points)
Replied 25 July 2010

Dear All,

 

CA FINAL EXAM RESULT
Exam  S No. Group I Group II Both Group
MM/YYYY Appeared Passed Pass % Appeared  Passed Pass % Appeared Passed Pass %
May-10 1 20049 2897 14.45 26517 2552 9.62 13242 458 3.46
Nov-09 2 25224 5011 19.87 30641 3099 10.11 18502 1454 7.86
Jun-09 3 25848 8379 32.42 27840 4185 15.03 18625 2579 13.85
Nov-08 4 21176 5892 27.82 23856 5762 24.15 14614 2926 20.27
May-08 5 17552 6444 36.71 18685 5290 28.31 10580 2645 25.00
Nov-07 6 16137 6353 39.37 16493 5005 30.35 8654 2446 28.26
May-07 7 15083 2289 15.18 15874 2777 17.49 7467 1023 13.70
Nov-06 8 14587 5505 37.74 16947 6555 38.68 6830 1830 26.79
May-06 9 15355 5832 37.98 17952 5718 31.85 7053 1608 22.80
Nov-05 10 15902 5039 31.68 20085 5772 28.74 7620 1348 17.69
May-05 11 18211 5748 31.56 20513 3520 17.16 8650 1243 14.37
Nov-04 12 16645 4089 24.57 20448 4484 21.93 7666 939 12.25
May-04 13 20724 7011 33.83 21364 3354 15.70 9770 1490 15.25
Nov-03 14 19501 4450 22.82 20377 4381 21.50 8597 1076 12.52
May-03 15 20290 4469 22.03 18692 2203 11.79 7943 802 10.10

Please see the pass % and think about our childern to prepare after 10th to take commerce for CA or Science for Engineering.

I am also hopeless with CA institure. 

I think if CA Institute take again exam. of all CA already pass than only approximate 75% CA which are already pass are failed as per new petrain.

I think CA institute should be closed the open entry in CA and give entry only who are passed in 12th more than 75% marks. 



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