Shocking revelations- articleship transfer

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1.One officer in ICAI decentralised branch told one of my friends that one of the major reason for banning transfer was the economic non-feasibility of processing articleship transfer ie form 109.
Usually most of the forms sent to ICai are regarding transfer.Had it been other forms ie registration for pcc/ipcc/final/itt etc;it would be WORTH PROCESSING AS that meant MONEY in form of DRAFTS/cheques/cash etc. ICAI has to pay for replying the forms as well BY POSTS. In case for replying for transfer forms; they will have spent something while they have earnt nothing. aamdani atthani,kharcha rupaiya hogaya na.
How greedy is ICAi, friends
 
2.he also said that yeh dummy mummy kuch nahi hai;sab members ki mutthi ki baat hain.if some influential member wants;he can easily have the transfer registered.
3.Even the CAs who are deputed in the icai branches don't answer about the transfer queries or others.they haughtily reply,"its on net;go and see there".they don't even give clarifications if we have the printout of the rules and ask from there.

stupid transfer must go. amarjeet sir,plz oblige

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Thanks 4 sharing jose.

It might be right....

one example of this... ICAI has published in its Student Newsletter September 2009 about the amendemnts for transfer rules. In that it was clarified that transfer till July 2009 was ok with them. However, one sentence in that after above clarification " one transfer will be allowed " is still not clarified. Also, ICAI's that newsletter of Sept'09 is still not seen in its site & not even on google. i.e. No body want to clarify that Senteance "ONE  TRANSFER ALLOWED" but after which period... REmber no announcement on that sentence is given by ICAI or nay president.....

Plz clarify....

 Hey Jose,

I believe you are somewhat mistaken as regards reasons for porcessing Transfer. Article are still applying for Transfers & the institute is verifying them application and is still spending on correspondances.

Basically the main reason for banning transfers was that the firms in small towns & Well as BIG firm long have been facing High attrition rate usually after 1st year. This led the firm to face difficulties in areas of  manpower plannig.Also most tranfers takes place just a couple of months before the pressure seasons of SEP & MAR..obviously this is painful for if a CA spends most of the !st year in trainning he expects his trainee to serve him atleast when his service are reuired the most, which the firms voiced against before the Council.

In these situation when a article takes transfer, he usually opts for dummy with a mistaken belief that he has got enough practicle knowledge & experience. 

 

 

 

Originally posted by :Vikram
"  Hey Jose,
I believe you are somewhat mistaken as regards reasons for porcessing Transfer. Article are still applying for Transfers & the institute is verifying them application and is still spending on correspondances.
Basically the main reason for banning transfers was that the firms in small towns & Well as BIG firm long have been facing High attrition rate usually after 1st year. This led the firm to face difficulties in areas of  manpower plannig.Also most tranfers takes place just a couple of months before the pressure seasons of SEP & MAR..obviously this is painful for if a CA spends most of the !st year in trainning he expects his trainee to serve him atleast when his service are reuired the most, which the firms voiced against before the Council.
In these situation when a article takes transfer, he usually opts for dummy with a mistaken belief that he has got enough practicle knowledge & experience. 
 
 
 
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well, i don't think so.the rule has worked as a deterrence for many more students than the number of those students still applying.if 100 students used to apply then;now only 20 apply(approx). Doesn't that mean there is considerable savings in correspondence?

I didn't say ICAI doesn't spend any money in correspondence.

This shows that ICAI has been critisized for being soft for big4.

Why do icai only see from the students as the guilty party?Are such firms infallible?

Before this also transfers were happening;do you mean satyam saga happened due to transfers.(jokin)

i agree with ur last sentence

Originally posted by :Vikram
"  Hey Jose,
I believe you are somewhat mistaken as regards reasons for porcessing Transfer. Article are still applying for Transfers & the institute is verifying them application and is still spending on correspondances.
Basically the main reason for banning transfers was that the firms in small towns & Well as BIG firm long have been facing High attrition rate usually after 1st year. This led the firm to face difficulties in areas of  manpower plannig.Also most tranfers takes place just a couple of months before the pressure seasons of SEP & MAR..obviously this is painful for if a CA spends most of the !st year in trainning he expects his trainee to serve him atleast when his service are reuired the most, which the firms voiced against before the Council.
In these situation when a article takes transfer, he usually opts for dummy with a mistaken belief that he has got enough practicle knowledge & experience. 
 
 
 
"


 

lemme give you one example. "There has been several attacks in Patna by naxalites.Seeing that naxalites comprises of mostly of poor peasants from rural areas and disgruntled tribal people; nitish kumar bans peasants(having income less than 1lac per year) and tribal people from coming even 20 km near patna."

This case is similar to transfer rule. Innocent people get caught in the process.The rules are stupid and illogical and against constitutional rights of citizens. Poor peasants may come to state capital to get medical attention which is not available in their village. If naxals want; even state police wont be able to check them from attacking the city targets.Same with dummy students; if a student intends to become dummy;then right after ipcc he will use his papa's contacts and become one as there is no transfer. PCC wale behkuff hein naa(those who wanted to take dummy after 2 years of articleship);ki we believed that icai wont do such a thing. 

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Originally posted by : Nikhil T
It might be right....
one example of this... ICAI has published in its Student Newsletter September 2009 about the amendemnts for transfer rules. In that it was clarified that transfer till July 2009 was ok with them. However, one sentence in that after above clarification " one transfer will be allowed " is still not clarified. Also, ICAI's that newsletter of Sept'09 is still not seen in its site & not even on google. i.e. No body want to clarify that Senteance "ONE  TRANSFER ALLOWED" but after which period... REmber no announcement on that sentence is given by ICAI or nay president.....
Plz clarify....

 

i also wonder why icai say things lyk this in newslatterr and after that i called icai(noida), and they say that i have misunderstood the post and there is nothing lyk that....

when i try to assure them that i am right and that sentence was published in newslater than they put the phone down

How rubbish !


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