Regarding itr 4s
Deep Garg (Accountant) (259 Points)
14 March 2017Deep Garg (Accountant) (259 Points)
14 March 2017
Dhirajlal Rambhia
(SEO Sai Gr. Hosp.)
(160976 Points)
Replied 14 March 2017
1. Yes.
2. Yes
3. No problem (hope not deposited in demonetized period)
Deep Garg
(Accountant)
(259 Points)
Replied 14 March 2017
NOT HE NOT DEPOSITED IT IN DURING DEMONITIZATION PERIOD
Dhirajlal Rambhia
(SEO Sai Gr. Hosp.)
(160976 Points)
Replied 14 March 2017
"IS THERE ANY ACTION ON HIS SAVING AFTER RETURN FILING. AS HIS BANK DETAILS GONE TO IT DEPARTMENT."
On what basis the account transaction reported to IT department?
Deep Garg
(Accountant)
(259 Points)
Replied 15 March 2017
LIKE HE HAS NEVER FILED RETURN EARLIER OR AND THE QUESTION COMING IN COMMAN MAN'S MIND THAT WILL INCOME TAX ASK WHERE THIS MONEY COMES FROM??? AS HIS SAVING IS 4 LACS BEFORE THE RETURN FILING I MEAN ABOVE FROM TAXABLE LIMIT OF 2.5 LACS LIKE FEAR OF COMMON MAN
Deep Garg
(Accountant)
(259 Points)
Replied 15 March 2017
DEAR SIR
PLEASE ALSO TELL ON WHAT BASIS TRANSACTION REPORTED TO IT DEPARTMENT??
AND IN WHICH CASE IT DEPARTMENT CAN ASK US WHERE THIS MONEY COMES FROM???
AND ONE MORE THING IF A PERSON SAVES 10-20 LAKHS FROM HIS EXEMPTED TAXABLE INCOME BELOW RS 250000 OR WHATEVER RATE IN EARLIER SLABS AND HE NEVER FILED IT RETURN EARLIER WILL IT DEPARTMENT ASKED WHERE THIS MONEY COMES FROM?? ASSUME HE SAVED IT IN 10 YEARS
Dhirajlal Rambhia
(SEO Sai Gr. Hosp.)
(160976 Points)
Replied 15 March 2017
Originally posted by : Deep Garg | ||
LIKE HE HAS NEVER FILED RETURN EARLIER OR AND THE QUESTION COMING IN COMMAN MAN'S MIND THAT WILL INCOME TAX ASK WHERE THIS MONEY COMES FROM??? AS HIS SAVING IS 4 LACS BEFORE THE RETURN FILING I MEAN ABOVE FROM TAXABLE LIMIT OF 2.5 LACS LIKE FEAR OF COMMON MAN |
Why should any one fear, if he has not done anything wrong?
There are different criteria, based on which the department is very active to unearth unaccounted money. If your client has not deposited any cash (above 2.50 lakhs, during the 50 days), rest assure, he is not in current enquiry list of the department.
For the said 4 lakhs balance in the account, you can explain it as the savings during last 3/4 years, based on cash flow drawn from income, be it below taxable limit.
Deep Garg
(Accountant)
(259 Points)
Replied 15 March 2017
THANKS SIR FOR YOUR VALUABLE ADVISE
DEAR SIR PLEASE ALSO TELL WHAT IS CASH FLOW?? IS IT IS WHAT WE DEPOSITED IN OUR ACOUNT INCLUDING CASH AND CHEQUE DEPOSIT. YOU MEAN TO SAY THAT WE SHOULD DEPOSIT BELOW TAXABLE LIMIT IN A FINANCIAL YEAR IF WE HAVE NOT TAXABLE INCOME
HOW IT IS DRAWN FROM INCOME???
Dhirajlal Rambhia
(SEO Sai Gr. Hosp.)
(160976 Points)
Replied 15 March 2017
It is the flow of income & expenditures of the (tailoring) business but only of cash part. As your client doesn't transact by bank the same is Funds flow statement. For complete working you may refer: https://www.accountingcoach.com/cash-flow-statement/explanation or 2. https://www.mca.gov.in/Ministry/notification/pdf/AS_3.pdf
Deep Garg
(Accountant)
(259 Points)
Replied 15 March 2017
SIR HE IS ONLY HOLDING SAVING ACCOUNT IN THIS WHAT IS HIS CASH FLOW???HE DID ALL HIS BUSINESS ALMOST IN CASH. AND ALSO NOT DOING HIS EXPANSSES BY CHEQUE.
Dhirajlal Rambhia
(SEO Sai Gr. Hosp.)
(160976 Points)
Replied 15 March 2017
Yes, that is why I said prepare cash flow statement (summary) for last 3/4 years, and as such balance amount (savings of that particular year) either deposited in savings account or remain as cash at hand. Simply to say, if out of 2.5 lakhs of income from business, amount expended for personal expenditure of about 1.7 lakhs to 2 lakhs, some amount remains as balance or not? ............
Deep Garg
(Accountant)
(259 Points)
Replied 15 March 2017
SIR
DID YOU MEAN CASH DEPOSITED IN ACCOUNT IN A FINANCIAL YEAR SHOULD NOT BE GRATER THAN TAX EXEMPTION LIMIT
Deep Garg
(Accountant)
(259 Points)
Replied 15 March 2017
MEANS IF WE WANT TO FILE NILL TAX RETURN OUR DEPOSIT SHOULD NOT BE GREATER THAN 2.5 LAKHS IN A YEAR IF EXEMPTION LIMIT IS 2.5 LAKHS IN THAT YEAR
Dhirajlal Rambhia
(SEO Sai Gr. Hosp.)
(160976 Points)
Replied 15 March 2017
Yes, unless you have cash balance of earlier year (opening balance)