Loans and advances or sundry debtor

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Hi

I'm giving money to provide me services at the beginning of the period. This is I pay 1000/- money in advance to a grocery stores to get groceries for the month.

At the month end, nothing is left after consumption. Is this grocery store guy a sundry debtors or loans and advances?

 

Txs

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In your books creditor.
do not put these questions. these are basic preliminary

@ Sabyasachi is bad that he studied less and rubab more.

https://www.wallstreetmojo.com/advance-payment/#:~:text=Advance%20payment%20is%20a%20payment,the%20goods%20or%20render%20services.

It appears on the assets side of the balance sheet as a prepaid expense for the buyer. Such advances are usually required when a buyer has defaulted payments in the past, so it protects the sellers from such unforeseen events, especially in the corporate world where the size of consignments is comparatively large.

These professional schools I've studied. 

And you studied from a broken English text book like below

When Advance paid to supplier hat is current Asset as its our right to get deliver goods and service in future. Before going further we have to understand what is Advance paid through the accounting rule of assets and libilities as mention above table.

https://www.thevistaacademy.com/journal-entry-of-advance-received-from-customer-and-advance-paid-to-supplier/

this is where you studied.

if i drag you to the courts for bragging too much, you'll be debarred for processing rubbish to everyone here. 

I think your a bpo employee chuckles

@ Yasaswi Gomes new.,
As per My View:

If we buy goods from a seller then he is a CREDITOR in our books...

We can account the amount as loans and advances in the beginning of the period.

At the time of consume we can adjust the amount with JV. In case we will continue it's regular basis then we convert the party ledger as Creditor.

Let's assume it that way. I have a regular supplier who is payables. 

Dr. Purchases 100

Cr. Creditor 100

At the time of payment

Dr. Creditor 100

Cr. Bank/Cash 100

If I overpayed the supplier by 100

Dr. Creditor 100

Dr. Current asset (loan or advances) 100

Cr. Bank 200

But my arrangement was just advance payment to avoid financial issues or frauds like the monio article covers.

 

 

 

Any excess paid to creditors or debtors will not be shown as loan. it will appear on the assets side under sundry debtors if creditors paid excess and on liability side if excess received from debtors.

Excess paid to suppliers and excess paid by debtors is what you mean. Anything excess paid by debtors is not advance

Dr. Receivables 100

Cr. Sales 100

And if the customer paid us 200

Dr. Bank 200

Cr receivables 100

Cr. Deferred liability 100

When the customer gets something worth that amount from us,

Dr. Deferred liability

Cr. Sales. 

 

 

 

Originally posted by : Yasaswi Gomes new
Excess paid to suppliers and excess paid by debtors is what you mean. Anything excess paid by debtors is not advance

Dr. Receivables 100

Cr. Sales 100

And if the customer paid us 200

Dr. Bank 200

Cr receivables 100

Cr. Deferred liability 100

When the customer gets something worth that amount from us,

Dr. Deferred liability

Cr. Sales. 

 

 

 

 

You are correct. 

But, It's not possible to direct entry as "CURRENT ASSET  & (/) CURRENT LIABILITY. Bcoz, In case the amount is uncleared or new staff then they can't find out the details.

So, It will adjust with JV as of Party Name_Under CURRENT ASSET  & (/) CURRENT LIABILITY.

Dr. Receivables 100

Cr. Sales 100

And if the customer paid us 200

Dr. Bank 200

Cr Customer A/c 200

   Agst Ref - 100

  New Ref (or Advance) - 100

In case the excess amount not tallied in the end of the year then we can move with a JV like

Dr. Customer A/c - 100

Cr. Customer Name - 100 (as Advance from Customer - Under_Current liability). 

 

The Same will follow Supplier Transactions under Current Asset.

 

Your correct I've created new masters and I don't even have to take permission from anyone cause if anything goes wrong I promised I'm responsible. JV, I like it but many ppl don't apart from managers and others feel it awkward. It's very good thing but it has its limitations like it can't process a pay to an employee. I don't f12 too many complexities but proficient user.

Oracle, sap forms vs tally, quick books ets. The functionality could be implemented. To me a big software and a small software mean the same cause everything runs by voucher number and date. Any controversies?

Originally posted by : Yasaswi Gomes new
Oracle, sap forms vs tally, quick books ets. The functionality could be implemented. To me a big software and a small software mean the same cause everything runs by voucher number and date. Any controversies?

means...?

We can use any Software(s) . But, Standards is standing as per Accounting.

Big (or Small) software can be blocked some of the process to the staffs except Managers/CEO/Any.

But, Finally entries can be make what we want....

Am I Right...???

Originally posted by : RAJA P M
Dr. Receivables 100

Cr. Sales 100

And if the customer paid us 200

Dr. Bank 200

Cr Customer A/c 200

   Agst Ref - 100

  New Ref (or Advance) - 100

In case the excess amount not tallied in the end of the year then we can move with a JV like

Dr. Customer A/c - 100

Cr. Customer Name - 100 (as Advance from Customer - Under_Current liability). 

 

The Same will follow Supplier Transactions under Current Asset.

 

@ Raja PM your correct! Some companies get tired to do against reference cause employees will be scared to remember the references. I also know the complete receivables process eg. Sales order- new reference, delivery note against reference, sales voucher against ref, and receipt against reference. But how is it possible to remember a reference with too many orders. So some choose against account.that is also giving outstanding balances. 

Originally posted by : Yasaswi Gomes new
@ Raja PM your correct! Some companies get tired to do against reference cause employees will be scared to remember the references. I also know the complete receivables process eg. Sales order- new reference, delivery note against reference, sales voucher against ref, and receipt against reference. But how is it possible to remember a reference with too many orders. So some choose against account.that is also giving outstanding balances. 

That's work. Staffs must be follow the references. Then Only it's going to smoothy with Suppliers and Customers.

Also in the finalization of Accounts.


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