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determine the depreciation / capital gain for the following:

 1)opening balance of motor car = Rs.4.20 lakhs

Purchased in jan - 10 =  Rs. 2.10 lakhs

Rate of depreciation = 15%

Motor car purchased in jan - 10 has been sold in march - 10 for Rs.2,30,000.

 

help me to get solved

 

2) opening balance of lorry = Rs.6lakhs

purhase in july -09 = Rs.1.50lakhs

Purchase in jan - 10 = Rs.10 lakhs

rate of depreciation = 30%

lorries have been sold for Rs.4,00,000.

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Capital Gain on Motor Car

Sales Consideration:                230000

Less: WDV of Motor Car            194250(210000-15750) for depreciation

STCG                                        35750

regards,

ratan

Please not that depreciation is not chargeable on the assets sold in a year.

1. Capital gain arises only when a block of assets ceases to exist or when the wdv of the assets becomes zero. In this case the block of motor car doesn`t cease to exist. So amount of depreciation is  Rs 0.6 lacs calculated on Rs 4 lacs i.e, (opening WDV Rs 4.2 lacs+ Purchases Rs 2.1 lacs- Sales Rs 2.3 lacs).

2. In this case no depreciation is chargeable as complete block of lorries ceased to exist. You get a short term capital loss of Rs 13.5 lacs i.e ( Opening Rs 6 lacs+purch in jul Rs 1.5lacs+ purch in Jan Rs 17lacs- sales Rs 4lacs)

Please see my reply. What u said is wrong.

Originally posted by : Ratan Deep Saxena

Capital Gain on Motor Car
Sales Consideration:                230000
Less: WDV of Motor Car            202125 (210000-7875) for depreciation
STCG                                           27875
regards,
ratan

I`ve calculated as per Income Tax Act, 1961

 

Motor Car
   
Opening WDV       420,000
Add: Additions       210,000
        630,000
Less: Sales considerations       230,000
   
WDV       400,000
 Less: Depreciation as below           44,250

Closing WDV                                                     

 

Depreciation 

      3,55,750                   
   
Closing WDV       400,000
Less: Additions less than 180 days       210,000
        190,000
   
Depreciation @ 15% on above        28,500
   
Add: Depreciation for acquisition for less than 180 days @ 7.5%        15,750
   
Total Depreciation        44,250

No capital gains in motor car as the block having balance and can be depreciated in next years

I agree Mr. Naga Praveen........

Please see this......

 

     
  Motor Car Lorry
opening 420000 600000
add : pur 210000 1150000
  630000 1750000
less : Sale 230000 600000
  400000 1150000
Dep 60000 -
STCG - 1150000
Clo. Bal 340000  

Please not that depreciation is not chargeable on the assets sold in a year.

Originally posted by : Kaushik Vankadkar


 




Motor Car



 

 



Opening WDV

      420,000



Add: Additions

      210,000



 

      630,000



Less: Sales considerations

      230,000



 

 



Closing WDV

      400,000



 

 



Depreciation 

 



 

 



Closing WDV

      400,000



Less: Additions less than 180 days

      210,000



 

      190,000



 

 



Depreciation @ 15% on above

       28,500



 

 



Add: Depreciation for acquisition for less than 180 days @ 7.5%

       15,750



 

 



Total Depreciation

       44,250






 

Dear Praveen,

Depreciation is not chargeable in the year of sale is applied when the block cease to exist or where there is a gain. In the given case the Motor car's block doesnot cease to exist and the remaining balance of the block after calculating the sale consideration is offered to depreciation.

 

I would also like to explain the rationale behind no depreciation in the year of sale:

Depreciation goes to P&L a/c which comes under the basket of normal slab rate and

the short term capital gains is also taxed by normal slab rate

So the point to ponder is even if you provide for the depreciation there will not be any change in tax liability. It will remain same in both the case.

Kaushik

 

Lory
   
Opening WDV       600,000
Add: Additions more than 180 days       150,000
Add: Addtions less than 180 days    1,000,000
     1,750,000
Less: Sales considerations       400,000
   
Short term Capital loss    1,350,000

As all lories have been sold so the block cease to exist and the block is nil. So the resultant balance is short term capital loss

Ok. I `ll tell you tomorrow.    

Praveen's answer is right and i agree with him that depreciation is not chargeable on an asset sold within the year

NOW PLZ ANY ONE FROM ABOVE WILL LET ME KNW IF MOTOR CAR IS COVERED UNDER DEFINITION OF CAPITAL ASSET AS PER SECTION 2(14)

Motors cars used for business comes under Capital Asset.

it hell to see such mistakes..... ha ha ha


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