Dummy articles can never outshine

totally agree with sanjay

AGREED WID U...

DISAGREE

I will show u some person geting Ranks (1st also)

having dummy articleship but they worked hard henceforth

bingo dude.....staright to d point....great post.......thank u

ok i fully agree with you dummy will not give good result for our future .articleship is backbone of ca course.i want take a advice i have worked more than 5years in various reputed ca firms as an paid accountant at senior level.i have passed MBA Finance.now i m prepring for Ca inter both groups whether i need more training or not  should i take dummy?

how much chance are caught by instuite whether a article is dummy or not? 

agreed wid Sanjay.

quiet correct

i too chossed trainning over dummy.......

but i see my frndz too who have very little or no work at their office what do u say for thm and the trnsfer being out of question what can they do........

on the contrary i have seen many dummy working with the top companies

what say frnds......

doing dummy articleship does not make you dumb...............................................it depends on an individual and not his training.....

also its a myth that dummy students clear exams more quickly or with better marks then a student doing full time articleship.......

also, many a times CA's themselves are not willing to call College going articles to work as they feel that such students cannot devote full time to work.......

Yes, practical training is necessary and helps you get a better job.....................

all i can say why students take dummy..i think icai should take afew students only during entrance exan like that of CAT....hone them in various skills through classroom interaction n give them suffiecient time have good prcatical exposure....so till one is not a sure he will be able to clear ca final...he mat take dummy route.....no doubt training very helpful....but some learn everything in 1 year only some may find 3 years insufficient.....i know some individuals who did not take training seriusly but after becoming CA...they worked very hard....no doubt practical training very good...but that only can not decide ur FATE.....icai need total overhauling...banning on transfers will not help....it needs to think why students taking dummy....icai needs to understand students...also nowadays approxmiate 1 lakh registeration every year n only about 5000 students clear ca final every year.....why icai palying with students when in future 1 lakh CA per year can never be the case......icai need big change...

Doing articles with a Principal who is very ridiculous, unflexible and unhuman in a given circumstance like today is very very DIFFICULT.  

Especially, if a person wants to learn some audit.

So, i PERSONALLY feel take a dummy articles and ensure that you get knowledge by going to the firms which you like and which are employee friendly.

Originally posted by : Sanjay
	There is a genuine issue which gathers people into an exchange of arguments drawn against dummy articles passing CA Finals compared to practicing articleship students. Some interesting facts might bring some highlight into the commotion: Corporates too are aware regarding the same, and hence they have improvised recruiting strategies, namely, you can search any Big 4 site and even corporate websites to get in touch of what is expected from a qualified CA. A dummy cannot fool them despite making a narrow escape with a Certificate. Many might be aware of the beginning of the whole transfers, aticleship work diaries, and more strict modifications into students practical training. A few years back when a CA Finalist (Ranked 1st) was felicitated by the Institute with usual felicitation ceremony, the Ranker (who was actually undergoing dummy) failed to impress a famous IT company. The IT company caught him easily when he was actually laboured with practical work(s). The IT company in return took up the issue with the Institute questioning them, the procedure of passing such immature professionals. The Ranker was taken to the Council and thourough review was done which soon revealed that the Ranker used to always stay glued to the books rather following Institute Training requirements.In the end, he was given a chance/punished is still a mystery, but the shortcomings were later on stitched with the present training scenario Articleship is the backbone of CA profession and not CA studies are the backbone of your future. Resulting clearly that one should readily enjoy this opportunity wisely to make your future safe even if you fail CA. Put a dummy to argue, he will snooze plainly. Today, articleship opportunities have changed considerably compared to yester years, except the wages of labor. I think dummy articles can never grab the best when the worst is still there for them outside in the practical world. So, enjoy CA !!!...

 totally agree with sanjay

what about those who undertakes "articleship which is not worth?"

there are sum firms having very less work or normally employ paid workers for thier max. work load instead of getting the work done by articles..they have articles only for "name sake";here the student kills his time in the office doing nothing& also waste his time in terms of studies..what about them???its as good as dummy...

therefore,its the QUALITY of WORK in articleship which counts..its not correct to merely mention just"ARTICLESHIP" BUT"WORTH ARTICLESHIP"..

i agree but i dont think all of the dummy articles or ca's get caught..