Doubt in filling details in itr-4 section 44ada

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Tarun Pamnani

7 Points Joined July 2018

Hi,

For ITR filing of FY2017-18, I have 2 employers.

1st employer, I was doing internship and they paid professional fees under section 196J and has given Form16A.

2nd employer paid salary and has provided form16

I am fillling ITR-4 for this, since a part of income is professional fees. In ITR-4 I have added this under section 44ADA with 100% profit, and nature of bussiness as IT enabled services.

I an not able to understand what should be filled into these 4 enteries:

Sundry Creditors.
Sundry Debtors.
Inventories.
Cash in Hand.

What should be filled here, If I got normal internship stipend under 194J and 1st employer dedcuted 10% TDS.

Thanks for the help.

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RAJA P M

"Do the Right Thing...!!!"

128147 Points Joined January 2015

If You are going to file u/s 44ada then You ll fill the above said details...
And If You have those balances then You can fill that balance amount...
Otherwise if You don't have balances then feed just 0...

Tarun Pamnani

7 Points Joined July 2018

Thanks for reply.

Can you slightly explain what Sundry Creditors, Sundry Debtors and these entries mean ?

As you have stated if I do not have any balance, then I can fill 0. What do balance mean in this terms.

Isn't section 44ADA is the correct one to file return for professional income ? or is there any other place.

RAJA P M

"Do the Right Thing...!!!"

128147 Points Joined January 2015

Originally posted by : Tarun Pamnani

Thanks for reply.

Can you slightly explain what Sundry Creditors, - It's to Suppliers/Inwards

Sundry Debtors - It's to Customers / Outwards

and these entries mean ? -

As you have stated if I do not have any balance, then I can fill 0. What do balance mean in this terms. -

If You are a consultant (Ex : Auditor / Tax consultant). Most of the services (Ex: March) issued to customers they give the Charges after a months (April) or two months (May) then Its a "Debtor Balance" as on 31/03/2018.

If you will receive any services or Stationary from others after you will give amounts to them as above then it's "Creditor Balance"

Isn't section 44ADA is the correct one to file return for professional income ? - Yes... It's correct upto Rs. 50 Lakhs...

or is there any other place. - If Our Profession is not eligible u/s 44ADA then we will move with ITR 3 as Regular.

RAJA P M

"Do the Right Thing...!!!"

128147 Points Joined January 2015

Originally posted by : RAJA P M
	If You are going to file u/s 44ada then You ll fill the above said details...And If You have those balances then You can fill that balance amount...Otherwise if You don't have balances then feed just 0...

Actually I replied based on Your 1st query...

But., I'm not get what is your actual income source/Activities for above said query...

Tarun Pamnani

7 Points Joined July 2018

Thanks for clarifying in detail.

So in my case:

Date of credit for April is: 30-04-2017 and Date of tax deposition is: 06-05-2017

Date of credit for May is: 30-05-2017 and Date of tax deposition is: 29-06-2017

I only have two months into this financial year. Assuming X income in both months. What should be the values ?

When you said " If You are a consultant (Ex : Auditor / Tax consultant). Most of the services (Ex: March) issued to customers they give the Charges after a months (April) or two months (May) then Its "

So we have to take as per date on which tax was paid and not the date on which service fees is creditied ?

RAJA P M

"Do the Right Thing...!!!"

128147 Points Joined January 2015

The balances are only Outstanding figures/Values. Not on service providing Values...

If you are provide service from 1st Mar to 31-Mar then the Value/Turn over / Receipts calculated on March the balnce amount oonly on Debtors balance...

As per your query no need any figures.