Diluted earning per share

a company where there is no fresh issue if shares there eps and dps will be same or not..pls confirm...
if in case in that company prefrence dividend are payble then we have to deduct it from net profit right..
in that case eps and dps will differ right...
pls advise
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This discussion clarifies the relationship between Earnings Per Share (EPS) and Dividends Per Share (DPS). It explains that while dividends are paid from retained earnings and don't directly impact EPS, certain actions like issuing new shares, exercising convertible preference shares, or using options and warrants can affect EPS. The conversation also touches upon how preference dividends might need to be deducted from net profit when calculating EPS, potentially causing a difference between EPS and DPS, especially when no new shares are issued.

Dividends are paid from Retained earnings. That does not impact EPS. 

There are many ways DPS is calculated, one is for issuing additional shares. If you issue additional shares, DPS changes.

Another instance where dividends is used is when convertible preference shares are exercised with cumulative dividend, and it is antidilutive. Meaning, EPS will increase and loss will decrease.

Dilutive EPS means EPS will decrease, loss will increase. Your first part is correct. DPS need not be calculated not unless the following happens:

Options & Warrants

Rights issue for employee

Additional issue

Convertible preference shares

In your second part, dividends are subtracted from net profit to get the numerator. 

**I meant while paying dividends, EPS is used for dividend decisions sometimes, but the procedure is different. I also meant it impacts EPS, typo error

Agree with yasaswi
So in our case where I m having divide d payble so I have to deduct this from net profit and after have to divide from outstanding shares right....but here the eps and dps if additional issue not done both should be same right..but we are getting the ration in diffrent bcoz of net fig changes .can u pls advise us..

You can’t calculate dps when there are no additional issue. Yes subtract it. 

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