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Attention May-2011 Ca Final ( ISCA Paper)

CA. A. K. GUPTA (HOD (Accounts Dept)) (1426 Points)

22 April 2011

AS ALL OF YOU KNOW THAT OUR INSTITUTE HAS CHANGED ISCA MODULE AND ISSUED PRACTICE MANNUAL.

BUT I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT THE ANSWER GIVEN IN PRACTICE MANNUAL ARE GIVEN AS OLD MODULE IN MANY QUESTIONS.

SHOCKED ????????

IF YES, THEN DOWNLOAD THE FILE UPLOADED BY ME .

IN THIS FILE, I HAVE JUST TAKEN 2 EXAMPLES TO SHOW THE DIFFERENCES.

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ANOTHER THING I WANT TO TELL THE STUDENTS OF DINESH MADAN.

YOU KNOW, DINESH MADAN HAS JUST GIVEN AMEMDMENTS OF 4TH CHAPTER BUT I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT CHAPTER NO- 2 & 10 ARE ALSO CHANGED. IN CHAPTER NO-2, SDLC PHASES HAS BEEN CHANGED.

I WANT TO SUGGEST YOU THAT JUST REFER NEW MODULE FOR CHAPTER NO -2 AND 10.

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Anit Sharma (CA Final student ) (460 Points)
Replied 22 April 2011

Wht abt chapt 8... A K

CA. A. K. GUPTA (HOD (Accounts Dept)) (1426 Points)
Replied 22 April 2011

Originally posted by : Anit
	Wht abt chapt 8... A K

YES, 8 HAS BEEN CHANGED, BUT THE CHANGE IS ONLY IN COBIT.

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Smita Kotiyal (CA Final Student) (78 Points)
Replied 22 April 2011

Pls provide changes for above topics. Thank you in advance.

CA Alok Modak (CA in Practice) (595 Points)
Replied 22 April 2011

Dear Friend,

The Institute module is itself copied word to word from different sources like ICAEW, etc. (search on the web and you will find word to word matching)

How can you expect the Institute to make a perfect Practice Manual.

In my opinion the practice manual is ridiculous. A lot of questions are from old syllabus.

Only ch. 10. some case studies are not in Text book. Rest every thing else is word to word copied from the text book. Only the cover is attractive rest every thing is the same. They could have at least modified the answers to questions in practice manual but who will take the efforts to do it?

The text book language is also very complicated and full of jargons which are not simplified. Even spelling mistakes are in plenty. What can we expect from ICAI about presentation of the Text !!!

How can the ordinary student refer such books?

In my opinion dont even handle the Practice manual of ISCA !

Study from the Text book and hope for 50+ (which is quite possible)

tony matthew (CA in Practice) (611 Points)
Replied 22 April 2011

Download the Recent Revisions of ISCA …

Chapter 4 ISCA

Chapter 8 ISCA

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CA.CWA.Venkatesh Repala (CA CWA;(CS PROFESSIONAL)) (1231 Points)
Replied 22 April 2011

YES, EXACTLY I AGREE WITH A. K. GUPTA,

I TOO OBSERVED THEM, AT EACH AND EVERY TOPIC THEY GAVE ANSWERS FROM SYLLABUS OF BEFORE REVISION, EVEN THERE ARE REDUNDANCY IN ANSWERS.

DEAR FRIENDS, I ADVISE U ALL DON'T PREPARE PRACTICE MANUAL FOR ISCA, AS THEY SHOWS US OLD SYLLABUS.

ONLY TOPICS INDEX IS CHANGED WITH NEW REVISED SYLLABUS............BUT NOT INNER CONTENT.

THIS IS WORST ON THE PART OF ICAI (ISCA DEPT). FOR SAYING THAT PRACTICE MANUALS OF REVISED SYLLABUS AS ON JAN 2011.

Originally posted by : A. K. GUPTA
	AS ALL OF YOU KNOW THAT OUR INSTITUTE HAS CHANGED ISCA MODULE AND ISSUED PRACTICE MANNUAL. BUT I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT THE ANSWER GIVEN IN PRACTICE MANNUAL ARE GIVEN AS OLD MODULE IN MANY QUESTIONS. SHOCKED ???????? IF YES, THEN DOWNLOAD THE FILE UPLOADED BY ME . IN THIS FILE, I HAVE JUST TAKEN 2 EXAMPLES TO SHOW THE DIFFERENCES. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ANOTHER THING I WANT TO TELL THE STUDENTS OF DINESH MADAN. YOU KNOW, DINESH MADAN HAS JUST GIVEN AMEMDMENTS OF 4TH CHAPTER BUT I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT CHAPTER NO- 2 & 10 ARE ALSO CHANGED. IN CHAPTER NO-2, SDLC PHASES HAS BEEN CHANGED. I WANT TO SUGGEST YOU THAT JUST REFER NEW MODULE FOR CHAPTER NO -2 AND 10.

tony matthew (CA in Practice) (611 Points)
Replied 22 April 2011

Originally posted by : A. K. GUPTA
	Originally posted by : Anit Wht abt chapt 8... A K YES, 8 HAS BEEN CHANGED, BUT THE CHANGE IS ONLY IN COBIT.

Revisions in Chapter 8 not done properly - refer above files of Manish Valechha ISCA .. it explain full concept of ISO 27001...

In old chapter 8 BS7799 part 1 & 2 both were covered .. now institute has replaced BS7799 with ISO 27001 ..

What abt BS 7799 another part ie. ISO 27002.. full text is given about ISO 27002 (ie. BS7799 part 1) in the same heading of ISO 27001 that is wrong … Since the detail is same .. most teachers r saying that there is no change in chapter 8, that is also wrong ! ..

Institute has referred this term (ISO 27002) while making comparison b,ween

CobiT 4.1 & ISO 27002:2007..

...

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Saurabh Kumar (CA Final(Article)) (86 Points)
Replied 22 April 2011

THanks for information

sumit (CHARTERED ACCOUNTANT) (479 Points)
Replied 23 April 2011

thank u very much

samantha (CA Final) (132 Points)
Replied 24 April 2011

Thank you all . that means no book is updated yet.

Mrunal ( Professional consultant) (122 Points)
Replied 26 April 2011

thnx for d info... But then main question is wht to do in exam??

The new modules updated on ICAI site are atleast up to date????? and can v consider them as last resort and base for d exam???

Coz i dnt have ISO 27002.. whr shd i get it from??

CA Harshmeet Khurana (CA) (204 Points)
Replied 28 April 2011

So which answer are we supposed to write? For eg: if conversion strategies are asked, what answer should be presented??!

CA. A. K. GUPTA (HOD (Accounts Dept)) (1426 Points)
Replied 28 April 2011

Originally posted by : Harshmeet Khurana
	So which answer are we supposed to write? For eg: if conversion strategies are asked, what answer should be presented??!

answer as given in module (updated) not as per practice mannual

tony matthew (CA in Practice) (611 Points)
Replied 28 April 2011

Originally posted by : CA student
	thnx for d info... But then main question is wht to do in exam?? The new modules updated on ICAI site are atleast up to date????? and can v consider them as last resort and base for d exam??? Coz i dnt have ISO 27002.. whr shd i get it from??