Bank audit in current scenario

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BANK AUDIT  IN CURRENT SCENARIO

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 Approx 30 years back; I remember my articleship days at Calcutta

 when I visited a Bank for statutory audit with our Audit Team.

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 After conducting the audit; the Team Head happily reported to the Boss :

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 “We have checked 80% of advances (Total advances Rs. 2 crores) and all is ok.”

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 The boss raised his eye brows and asked :

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 What about rest of Rs. 40 Lacs of advances?

 Are you sure these are not bad debts?

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Please don't comment until I invite. 

Ok as you said

As per notification of RBI, PSU Banks are not required to have branch audits having advances of Rs.20 cr. or less. .

 

For banks; now Rs.20 crores of advances doesn't matter.

 

Who cares for the PUBLIC DEPOSITS? . .

 

When no audit is required for Rs.20 crores advances (REAL MONEY); then what is the LOGIC to conduct the TAX AUDIT of just Rs.1 Cr. above of TURNOVER !

 

FRAMING AN OPINION ON THE STATEMENT OF AFFAIRS OF A COMPANY
HAVING HEAD OFFICE; BUT LARGE NUMBER OF BRANCHES ARE NOT AUDITED.
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Then why there is a need of STATUTORY AUDIT of a BRANCH
in case of OTHER PUBLIC/PRIVATE LIMITED COMPANIES ?

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The number of transactions are very few in such cases in comparison to the Banks.

RBI take the plea that lot of expenditure is incurred on Statutory Audits of the bank.

 

Just to avoid the expenses, how far the logic of RBI is correct?

 

Who will take care of financial frauds? Why we incur huge expenditure on our defence forces, what is the use...We can incur expenditure when the enemy attacks.....

 

Wah re sarkari soch.......

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CA Deep Jain, Faridabad

I think even LOSS MAKING COMPANIES should also be OUT OF PURVIEW of AUDITS

because it creates FINANCIAL BURDEN TO THEM.

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If the CENTRAL AUDITORS certify the BOOKS OF BANKS without conducting BRANCH AUDITS;

 

then whatever RESORTS they take;

 

further SUCH MEASURES are likely to be LODGED by the REGULATORY AUTHORITIES.

The fear of presence of Auditors in the mind of  client is ENOUGH to prevent the FRAUDS.

 

Whenever an outsider comes for checking; it is always taken SERIOUSLY by the employees and the management.

 

Unfortunately;

 

the AUDITORS' INDEPENDENCE has lost due to actual powers of his appointment in the hands of management despite using HUGE PUBLIC FUNDS.

Soon we need a GUIDANCE NOTE ON :
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"FRAMING AN OPINION ON THE STATEMENT OF AFFAIRS OF A COMPANY
HAVING HEAD OFFICE; BUT LARGE NUMBER OF BRANCHES ARE NOT AUDITED."

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Now I invite comments from the readers.

HI,

Its true we should have such guidance note since frauds and Auditor's independence will be affected.

If this happens then there is no purpose of forming an opinion on the statement of affairs of the company.

Originally posted by : *...CA...*

I think the decision taken by RBI.... .

.keeping in mind the consolidated view of  the value of rupees, techonology advancement & poor quality of audit by CA's !

I welcome the move and i also eagerly waiting for complete abolishment of concurrent audit system in near future !

 

Your experience might be very bad either as an articled clerk or due to too low fee in the professional capacity. 

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The required thing is to give REMEDY to the problem and not that AUDITORS should be removed. 

 

If a house is full of dust;; it does not mean we should never enter therein.

 What course of action should be; everyone knows.

And why only concurrent audit be abolished.....?

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All the companies must be out of purview of the audit whose turnover (not loans) is lesser than Rs.20 crores.

( Which one is important - Actual Loan of Rs.20 Crores or Turnover of Rs.20 Crores)?

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(according to your view : Mr Dot..Dot..CA .)

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Originally posted by : *...CA...*

Dear S.K.Rakhecha sir.....

 

I asked for complete abolishment of concurrent audit system because

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CA's could not give any kind of fruitful outcome to banks .

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CA's shows keen interest in getting the assignment and once they get it they will show their true color.

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Because of low fees for doign concurrent audit, Most CA's dont do extensive concurrent audit as expected from them, instead they just fill up the concurrent audit format by hook or crook and submit to the branch manager.

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Such audit report has got no value instead it just adds burden to bank authorities including monetarily.

 

 

Agree wid above comment...

Important is public  money, investors money whether its a single rupee or millions.......keeping this point in mind 100% branch audit should be there..........

solution

for branches whose advances are below 20 crore,  appointment should be done by banks on own by way of tender system or whatever system which financially beneficial  to bank ..... and for branches whose advances more than 20 crore present system should be followed.


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