What to do for 2nd group

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Greetings everyone.

 

I cleared my 1st group this time with ease and with good marks but couldn't continue the same magic with 2nd group just because Loving paper ISCAangry..In May 2014 attempt, i scored 34 in ISCA and couldn't made the mark.To my surprise and shock i again scored 34 in ISCA in this attempt which i couldn't believe at all.In may 2014 attempt, it was my mistake becuase i studied from dinesh madan sir's class notes but this time i prepared from Manish Vallecha book and dint even touch any class notes. Still no difference.

 

I am now fed up with this paper. I dont wanna do this anymore bcoz im not geeting any fruitful result irrespective of the different reference book/notes. One more thing, I am not able to attempt costing paper for even 80 marks. I have been able to attempt only 70 marks paper of costing in my attempts. Please help me to overcome this real monster(2nd group of CA-Final). In IDT Paper, i know this paper is very scoring but i couldn't revise the whole syllabus in just 1 day.

 

Please seniors/experts,come and resolve my problem.

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1. ISCA - Plan it well... refer some good notes of a good teacher... basically i had studied a bit from madan sir book  and rest from practice manual,module.. i knows its bit boring but boss CA tag k liye anything allowed.... Now i had studied in a different way u can try that.... mostly i sit maximum one hour for one time for ISCA, made my own handwritten notes to revise in exams, 6 days of study from monday to saturday and sunday a vast revision of whatever i had studied in six days

For Costing... 

 

Trying to solve the past year papers with a set time table of 3hrs... u need to practice as much as u can.. because if u cant write papers of 100 marks in exams.. then it would b quite tough to get clear... we after writing 100 marks paper can expect 60 marks... now if u r writing it near abt 70-80.. you are planning for only 30-40 marks na...

 

so boss speed too increase karna baht baht jaruri h....

 

make a formulae copy which wil also help u in cost to revise.....

IDT- so do you think we all revise complete 100 marks paper in a day before exams.... usually people revise frm the important topics...

 

you too can do that na... and i think when u can revise other subjects like isca,dt, audit.... you surely can revise IDT also yaar..... Trust your self...

 

start the revision from the important topics,... so that if time is less, some less important topics can b left to revise... 

FOR ISCA - The MOST important tip I can give you for this subject is : NEVER TOUCH ANYTHING OTHER THAN YOUR STUDY MATERIAL! Why? Because the person who evaluates your paper probably doesnt know much about computers, so he/she will follow the solution key which is based on the study material. Simple. So even if you write something that is absolutely correct, you probably wont get marks if its not what appears in the solution key. So simply study what is there in your book, and be as thorough as possible. Remember as many points as possible
FOR TAX - Make summary notes(STRICTLY) on your own.write all the sections -its provision in brief,write all tricky adjustments and write explanation there in yr own launguage so that you can revise it.FOR 7 module make 7 summary notebook.write it with good handwriting and use different colour pens.Focus on amendments and pratise all module and pm question - focus on presentation of answer - daily revise the sections. Follow this and you will able to get 60+ in idt
FOR AMA - Best way to complete paper in time is by attempting THEORY QUS - usually comes for 30+ marks.Learn it from practise manual and compliation. Solve atleast 2 mock papers
see this how guy cleared isca - /mobile/forum/from-31-to-63-in-isca--317786.asp
M confused regarding AMA.. m weak n slow while solving in it.. had done classes too.. bt it ws nt mch use.. suggest or give ur reviews abt Sanjay Aggarwal n R M Kishore .. vil refer any 1 of them.. vil also be doin PM.. Thanks!

Sir, Please clarify pass percentage rate for ca final since in July 23, 2013 ICAI isse letter that pass percentage increase to 55% by see foll content. “Passing Criteria Passing criteria at all level of the CA examination i.e. CPT, IPC and Final has been changed to 55% marks in aggregate and 45% for individual subjects w.e.f. May, 2015 Examinations.”  for ref please check below link https://220.227.161.86/30461exam20163.pdf please advise me.  

 

Dear Shyam, please go through the link and read it once , its all false news.  Dont worry

HI KARAN , FIRST OF ALL DON’T FEEL YOU GOT SAME 34 AGAIN IN ISCA IN NOV14 AS IN MAY 14, BECAUSE THEY CHANGED SYLLABUS TO A SIZABLE EXTENT. SO NO COMPARISON WITH EARLIER ATTEMPT. I AM ALSO HAD SAME PROBLEM CLEARED 1 ST GROUP MAY 2013 BUT IT TOOK THREE ATTEMPTS TO CLEAR 2ND GROUP. AMA NOT ONLY YOU MOST STUDENTS (INCLUDING MYSELF) COULD ABLE TO ATTEND 70 TO 80 MARKS ONLY BUT YOU CAN SCORE WELL IF YOU ATTEND THOSE 70 TO 80 MARKS WELL. IF YOU WANT TO ATTEND FULL PAPER , THEN YOU HAVE TO DO MORE PRACTICE ( HELPS YOU TO INCREASE SPEED OF ANSWERING) IN AMA YOU CANNOT SKIP ANY TOPIC BUT YOU GIVE MORE WEIGHTAGE TO SMALL TOPICS LIKE OR AREAS, ABC COSTING, PRICING,RELEVANT COSTING, BUDGETING ,THEORIES ETC. FOR STANDARD COSTING PUT LESSER TIME , COVER ALL VARIANCE FORMULAS, RECONCILIATION FORMATS AND ONE ILLUSTRATION FROM EACH. FOR TRANSFER PRICING TRY TO UNDERSTAND CONCEPTS DO ALL PAST EXAM QUESTIONS, FINALLY U TRY TO DO MARGINAL COSTING IN LEAST POSSIBLE TIME, ONE PROBLEM IN EACH TYPE OF SITUATIONS (IN MY VIEW TULSIANS BOOK BEST FOR MARGINAL COSTING U MAY TRY THAT) IN EXAM TRY TO ATTEND AS MUCH PROBLEMS YOU CAN DO, DON’T STUCK UP IN A PROBLEM , IF YOU HAVE DIFFICULTY IN SOME PROBLEM THEN GO NEXT WITHOUT WASTING YOUR PRECIOUS TIME ON THAT. TRY TO USE 15 MINUTES READING TIME EFFECTIVELY IN PLANNING WHAT PROBLEMS ARE EASY AND LESS TIME TAKING AND WHAT ARE MORE TIME TAKING PROBLEMS. ISCA ISCA 1ST AND 4 TH CHAPTER IS LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO MEMORIZE BUT REST TOPICS ALL ARE EASY . YOU STUDY ISCA IN ORDER OF EASINESS EASY TOPICS 8,2,3,6,7 MEDIUM LEVEL TOPICS 5 DIFFICULT TOPICS 1 & 4 (THOUGH IN BOTH TOPICS SOME AREAS ARE THERE, U SHOULD COVER WELL THOSE EASY AREAS YOU MAY MAKE SUMMARIZED NOTES IN MS WORD( and make hard copy) FOR EACH TOPICS WHICH SHOULD CONTAIN HEADINGS, SUBHEADINGS, IMPORTANTS POINTS. WHICH SHOULD BE LESSER THAN 4 TO 5 PAGES FOR EACH TOPICS. (YOU MAY COPY PASTE THESE POINTS FROM INSTITUTES STUDY MATERIAL PDF EASILY). This summarized material will be very handy during the day before exam. DIRECT TAX STUDYING YOGENDRA BANGER ALONG WITH VINOD GUPTA SUMMARY MODULE MAY HELP YOU IN MANAGING TIME IN STUDYING THE PAPER, STUDY IMPORTANT TOPICS WISE, DON’T WASTE TIME IN UNIMPORTANT TOPICS WHICH NEVER ASKED OR ASKED AT VERY LESSER TIME ( REFER PAST EXAM WEIGHTAGE PATTERN). STUDY WELL AMENDENTS ALONG ,CASE LAWS & RTP MAY 2015. INDIRECT TAX 1. STUDY WELL AMENDMENTS,CASE LAWS & RTP MAY 2015 2. STUDY WELL SERVICE TAX (ALL TOPICS) WHICH COMES FOR 50 MARKS 3. GO THROUGH PRCATICAL PROBLEMS OF PAST EXAMS IN ALL TOPICS (EX:VALUATION,CENVAT,SSI, CUSTOMS VALUATION & CLASSIFICATION, SERVICE TAX & OTHERS) 4. STUDY ONLY IMPORTANT TOPICS IN EXCISE ( VALUATION,CENVAT,SSI, CLASSIFICATION, BASIC CONCEPTS, IF TIME PERMITS CENTRAL EXCISE PROCEDURE ). IN CUSTOMES ALSO ONLY IMPORTANT TOPICS (VALUATION, CLASSIFICATION,BAGGAGE,FOREIGN TRADE POLIY(5MARKS), STUDY GENRAL TOPICS LIKE AAR,SETTLEMENT COMMISSION WELL (VERY SMALL TOPICS ONLY) 5. BEFORE THE DAY EXAM DON’T SPEND MUCH TIME ON EXCISE AND CUSTOMS AREAS INSTEAD PUT MORE TIME ON SERVICE TAX,AMENDMENTS,CASELAWS, PRACTICAL PROBLEMS. & RTP. ALL THE BEST FOR YOUR MAY 2015 EXAM. (CAVEAT: THE ABOVE STRATEGY WORKED FOR ME, THAT’S WHY SUGGESTING, YOU MAY MODIFY ACCORDING TO YOUR PERCEPTIONS)

For ISCA..Plz refer only & only module..no other reference book. If time permits go through p.m once !!

For Costing..try solving sums..to increase your speed !!

For IDT..you are right, its a scoring subject..read Bangar..along with that prepare your own notes in short, which can be referred juz the night before xam !!

All The Bestyes

Thax everyone for your help n support. I'll follow some of your valuable suggestions


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