TDS Return Filing when Tax is directly deducted by Governmen

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How does an organisation file a TDS return when tax is deducted by the government and a net remittance is received by the organisation from the government?

 

Meaning if 100 was receivable from the government ( for say salary), the government deducts 10and remits 90to the organisation. The organisation in turn gives 90 to the teachers. The organisation gives a salary certificate to the teachers at the end fo the year.


The TDS software we have has a provision for a book entry, but it also asks for a challan at the same time.

 

How do you make a TDS return in such a case?
Any help would be appreciated.

 

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ask for form 16 in case of salary from deductor..in that u can found challan no.

Originally posted by : AYUSH AGRAWAL

ask for form 16 in case of salary from deductor..in that u can found challan no.

Ayush, the government deducts tax and remits the net amount.


Form 16 is merely given by the organisation. The organisation does not pay any tax out of its own pocket.


In such a case, there is no challan number that exists in the Form 16, and no ifnormation is obtained from the government regarding rhe challan number.

then in this case whether u have to contact concerned person who is accountant of that govt org.

otherwise if u take credit of that tds after quoting 000000 false challan no. then after assessment AO will disallowed that tds.

 

this case happens major time..

bcoz if AO see in NSDL then no such payment has been find in ur account.

 

otherwise go to IT return filling section,i mean liginj where go to my account option where u may find challan no.

Ayush, thanks for your reply!

 

Speaking to the accountant of that government organisation is not an option unfortunately.

 

So it seems that you have to enter a fake challan number in order to file your TDS.

 

But why does the TDS software ask for the challan number if you say it has been deducted by book entry?

 

Surely, there ought to be a provision for deduction via book entry and no challan number required when the TDS is deducted directly by the government?

 

OR LOGIN IN it SITE FOR RETURN FILLING

 

GO TO MY OPTION>

WHERE U FIND UR CHALLAN NO.

Hey buddy you dont have to file any TDS return in that case. The same was happened to one of our client and we sended the return but KARVY didn't accepted the return. the says we dont have to file the return it is the zEducation departments responsibility to file the return.

Originally posted by : Samiksha

Hey buddy you dont have to file any TDS return in that case. The same was happened to one of our client and we sended the return but KARVY didn't accepted the return. the says we dont have to file the return it is the zEducation departments responsibility to file the return.

Thanks for your answer Samiksha!

 

When you did make the return, did you actually speak to the officials for a challan or did you enter a fake challan?

 

Also, my first impression was that the organisation was not liable to file the return, but their previous auditors have been filing it in the past and so we've had no option but to continue it.

 

In such a case, would the responsibility of salary certificate for every employee fall on the government then?

HELLO RAHUL, YOU HAVE TO ENTER DUMMY CHALLANS AND DATE OF DEUCTION.

Originally posted by : RAJ KUMAR

HELLO RAHUL, YOU HAVE TO ENTER DUMMY CHALLANS AND DATE OF DEUCTION.

But a dummy challan would result in a demand later from the Income Tax department, wouldn' t it ?

dear, the best way is get yourself registered for 26as, from you will get the details. if details are not there then it is difficult to claim tds

WE HAVE TO MENTION VOUCHER NO. INSTESD OF CHALLAN NO. 

Dear Rahul,

In your case (with effect from 2010-11 financial year) the District Treasury has to file monthly form 24G with the TIN fc showing all the tans of drawing and disbursement officers against whom they have adjusted TDS through book entry. After successful filing of the same by Treasuries a ref no would be generated. That no has to be provided by the Treasuries to the concerned DDOs. Say ur School Authorities. Then you have to select Book entry option as yes in challan and enter that ref no. For more details browse tin.nsdl.com


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