ITR for non organised businessmen

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Dear Sirs,

Greetings,

Some of my friends want to file ITR for loan purpose. They are engaged in non organised sectors such as supplying milks to houses, vending vegetables, etc. There total turnover is approx rs 7 lakhs and profit of ~ 1.5 lakhs. My question is which ITR form to use? Is it ITR 4? If yes, whether they would be liable to maintain accounts as per section 44AA?

Thanks in advance. Rgds / CKSingh

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ITR 4 WILL BE USED.

NO REQUIRED TO MAINTAINED BOOKS OF ACCOUNT IF TOTAL TURNOVER IS RS. 7 LAC

agreed wid mr. bansal

Dear Bansal ,

 

How much turnover (required)will cross to maintain books in above case

Dear N.Sreenivaas

no need to maintain books if your trunover is below 10 LACS (in business case)

and

Rs. 120000/- in professional case  ;)

Maintenance of accounts by certain persons carrying on profession or business.

5044AA. (1) Every person carrying on legal, medical, engineering or architectural profession or the profession of accountancy or technical consultancy or interior decoration or any other profession as is notified51 by the Board in the Official Gazette shall keep and maintain such books of account and other documents as may enable the 52[Assessing] Officer to compute his total income in accordance with the provisions of this Act.

(2) Every person carrying on business or profession [not being a profession referred to in sub-section (1)] shall,—

   (i)   if his income from business or profession exceeds 53[one lakh twenty] thousand rupees or his total sales, turnover or gross receipts, as the case may be, in business or profession exceed or exceeds 54[ten lakh] rupees in any one of the three years immediately preceding the previous year; or

(ii)   where the business or profession is newly set up in any previous year, if his income from business or profession is likely to exceed 55[one lakh twenty] thousand rupees or his total sales, turnover or gross receipts, as the case may be, in business or profession are or is likely to exceed 56[ten lakh] rupees, 57[during such previous year; or

(iii) where the profits and gains from the business are deemed to be the profits and gains of the assessee under section 44AD or section 44AE or section 44AF 58[or section 44BB or section 44BBB], as the case may be, and the assessee has claimed his income to be lower than the profits or gains so deemed to be the profits and gains of his business, as the case may be, during such previous year,]

keep and maintain such books of account and other documents as may enable the 59[Assessing] Officer to compute his total income in accordance with the provisions of this Act.

(3) The Board may, having regard to the nature of the business or profession carried on by any class of persons, prescribe60, by rules, the books of account and other documents (including inventories, wherever necessary) to be kept and maintained under sub-section (1) or sub-section (2), the particulars to be contained therein and the form and the manner in which and the place at which they shall be kept and maintained.

(4) Without prejudice to the provisions of sub-section (3), the Board may prescribe, by rules, the period for which the books of account and other documents to be kept and maintained under sub-section (1) or sub-section (2) shall be retained.]

AS PER MY ADVISE , YOU HAVE TO FILE HIS RETURN AS DEEMED PROFIT U/S 44AF RETAILER

I.E MINIMUN PROFIT IS 8% OF TOTAL TURNOVER.

THEN YOU NEED TO DO ANYTHING , SHOWN PROFIT IN RETAIL BUSINESS MORE THAN 8%

 

 

Originally posted by : CA. BIJENDER KR. BANSAL

Maintenance of accounts by certain persons carrying on profession or business.

5044AA. (1) Every person carrying on legal, medical, engineering or architectural profession or the profession of accountancy or technical consultancy or interior decoration or any other profession as is notified51 by the Board in the Official Gazette shall keep and maintain such books of account and other documents as may enable the 52[Assessing] Officer to compute his total income in accordance with the provisions of this Act.

(2) Every person carrying on business or profession [not being a profession referred to in sub-section (1)] shall,—

   (i)   if his income from business or profession exceeds 53[one lakh twenty] thousand rupees or his total sales, turnover or gross receipts, as the case may be, in business or profession exceed or exceeds 54[ten lakh] rupees in any one of the three years immediately preceding the previous year; or

(ii)   where the business or profession is newly set up in any previous year, if his income from business or profession is likely to exceed 55[one lakh twenty] thousand rupees or his total sales, turnover or gross receipts, as the case may be, in business or profession are or is likely to exceed 56[ten lakh] rupees, 57[during such previous year; or

(iii) where the profits and gains from the business are deemed to be the profits and gains of the assessee under section 44AD or section 44AE or section 44AF 58[or section 44BB or section 44BBB], as the case may be, and the assessee has claimed his income to be lower than the profits or gains so deemed to be the profits and gains of his business, as the case may be, during such previous year,]

keep and maintain such books of account and other documents as may enable the 59[Assessing] Officer to compute his total income in accordance with the provisions of this Act.

(3) The Board may, having regard to the nature of the business or profession carried on by any class of persons, prescribe60, by rules, the books of account and other documents (including inventories, wherever necessary) to be kept and maintained under sub-section (1) or sub-section (2), the particulars to be contained therein and the form and the manner in which and the place at which they shall be kept and maintained.

(4) Without prejudice to the provisions of sub-section (3), the Board may prescribe, by rules, the period for which the books of account and other documents to be kept and maintained under sub-section (1) or sub-section (2) shall be retained.]



AS PER MY ADVISE , YOU HAVE TO FILE HIS RETURN AS DEEMED PROFIT U/S 44AF RETAILER

I.E MINIMUN PROFIT IS 8% OF TOTAL TURNOVER.

THEN YOU NEED TO DO ANYTHING , SHOWN PROFIT IN RETAIL BUSINESS MORE THAN 8%

 

 

Greetings !

Pls. advice, 

COMPUTATION OF INCOME                                                  Amount [ Rs.] 

INCOME FROM BUSINESS & PROFESSION

Deemed Profit U/s.44AF (Screen Printing Job)                           188,302

INCOME FROM OTHER SOURCES

Bank Interest on Saving Bank A/c                                                        115  

TOTAL INCOME                                                                                 188,417

Less ;- U/s. 80C - LIC Premium                                                      27,108

TOTAL TAXABLE INCOME                                                             161,309

TAX ON 1,61,310/-                                                                                  131

Add:- Ecess @ 3%                                                                                      4

TOTAL TAX                                                                                               135   

agree with mr bansal...

an assessee is required to maintain its books of accounts if

its turnover exceeds Rs. 10 Lacs

or

if his income from B & P exceeds Rs. 1.20 Lacs

hence in the above asked query assessee is required to maintain its books of accounts.


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