How to get form24g bin

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I AM FILING 24Q RETURNS of many Government offices/Institutions. When the new RPU was introduced in the month of December 2011, I have a problem on transferring the Tax from Book adjustements to PAN. 

As per the new RPU one has to enter the CHALLAN no. and AIN/BIN Code no of the Tresury where it was paid through book adjustment.  (PREVIOUSLY IT WAS CHALLAN NO. ONLY)

When preparing the Third quarter  OF FORM 24Q it was observered from the DDO's , Due to lack of knowledge on filing of  24G some Government Treasuries have not filed FORM24G for the year ended 31.3.2012, and 2011 & some treasuries have   started filing FORM 24G to IT department for the y.e 31.3.2011 and hence we are unable to prepare 24q for third quarter, and fourth quarter.

I request the members is any body have encountered this kind of a problem and how it was solved.  Valuable suggestions are invited from members.   Thanks in advance.

AUDITOR SEKAR.

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We are also facing same problem with our clients

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to get bin no

1) ask your client to get AIN from the a.o (seven digit no.)

2) in tin nsdl website login with tan of your assessee (You must register your client's tan)

3) after you have logged in verify the bin  in tin network

4) it will ask for AIN, and month of 24g to be verified.  feed these particulars.  Bin will be displayed.

Note: in the above proceedure BIN Can be available provided the a.o. has filed 24G.

AUDITOR SEKAR.

 

 

RECENTLY NSDL/INCOME TAX  HAS ISSUED INSTRUCTION REGARDING TO QUOTE BIN( BOOK IDENTIFICATION NUMBER)IN ALL ETDS RETURNS   OF GOVT DEDUCTORS WHERE TAX IS REMITTED THROUGH TREASURY.

 

WE ARE FACING FOLLOWING PROBLEMS IN THIS REGARD:

 

1. TREASURY ARE FILING DATA OF TDS , DDO WISE NOT TAN WISE I.E , IF MANY OFFICES ARE HAVING DIFFERENT TAN IN THEIR NAME BUT HAVING COMMON DDO , TREASURY IS FILING DATA DDO WISE NOT TAN WISE. IT MEANS ALL DATA OF DIFFRENT TAN HOLDER IS POOLED UNDER COMMON DDO TAN. DATA OF BOOK IDENTIFICATION NUMBER IS NOT SHOWING IN THE TAN HOLDER NAME , IF IT IS SHOWING IT IS WRONG. IF BOOK IDENTIFICATION WILL NOT SHOWN THEN GOVT OFFICES WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO FILE THEIR ETDS RETURNS. AND INCOME TAX PENALTY WOULD BE ATTRACTED TO THESE TYPE OF CASES.

 

EXAMPLE: ONE INTER COLLEGE HAVING TAN MRTP00120B AND ANOTHER INTER COLLEGES MRTK00240C, AND THIRD INTER COLLEGE TAN IS MRTH00480C HAVE DEDUCTED TDS RS 1000, 2000, 3000 AND REMITTED TO TREASURY OF UTTAR PRADESH. THESE SCHOOLS ARE HAVING COMMON DDO SAY CONTROLER OF COLLEGES HAVING TAN NO. MRTC00960C. TREASURY IS REMITTING TDS RS 6000/-THROUGH DDO TAN(MRTC00960C) NOT BY ABOVE COLLEGES TAN. IT MEANS DDO TAN MRTC00960C IS HAVING TDS AMOUNT IN ITS 24G INFORMATION AND ANOTHER INTER COLLEGES’S 24 G INFORMATION IS SHOWING NIL INFORMATION. TREASURY OFFICE IS FILING DATA OF TDS THROUGH DDO TAN ONLY.

 

2. GOVT OFFICES WILL NOW FILE THEIR ETDS RETURNS AFTER FILING OF FORM 24-G BY TREASURY OFFICE , IF WRONG DATA OF 24-G HAS BEEN FILED THEN GOVT OFFICES WILL FACE MANY PROBLEMS. IN THIS CASE ALL GOVT OFFICES ARE DEPENDENT TO TREASURY OFFICE. IF WRONG DATA HAS BEEN ENTERED BY TREASURY OFFICE ,THEN GOVT OFFICE WILL REQUEST TO TREASURY OFFICE TO RECTIFY THE DATA AFTER THAT GOVT DATA WILL BE RECTIFIED.

 

3. IF WRONG TAN IS MENTIONED AS I DISCUSSED IN FIRST PARA THEN GOVT OFFICE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FILE THEIR RETURN AS BIN WOULD NOT SHOWN IN THEIR TAN DATA AND BOOK IDENTIFICATION NUMBER IS COMPULSORY TO FILE ETDS RETURNS. IF ETDS RETURN OF GOVT OFFICES HAVE NOT BEEN FILED OR FILED WRONG . THE DATA OF VARIOUS GOVT EMPLOYEES WOULD NOT SHOWN IN 26 AS.

4. IN THE MY OPINION ALL OTHER PERSONS ARE ALSO FACING THIS TYPE OF PROBLEMS.  AND IF CONSIDER THE DATA OF FILING THE ETDS REPORTS OF GOVT DEPATMENTS YOU WILL JUDGE THAT MANY OF GOVT OFFICES HAVES NOT FILES TDS RETURNS DUE TO THIS REASONS.

 

MY SUGGESTION IS THAT TDS OF ALL GOVT OFFICES SHOULD BE  DEPOSITED THROUGH BANK ONLY OR GUIDE TREASURY OFFICES TO FILE CORRECT DATA TAN WISE NOT DDO WISE AT RIGHT TIME OR OLD SYSTEM OF FILING OF GOVT ETDS RETRUNS SHOULD BE FOLLOWED TILL THE NEW SOLUTION.

thankyou sir

but tell me what is bin & how it works

Mr, kalra,

What you have pointed out is perfect. Government should develop the Tax deduction through banks so that the TDS  credit will be ensured to the government assessees.

By that time I would like to point out that in TAMILNADU, ERODE One TIN FACILITATION CENTRE RUN BY INTEREGRATED ADVISORY SERVICES is now collecting data from all Government offices by using the Income Tax departments name and they told they will computerise FORM 24G, AND 24Q?????????????????. in single stroke.  Practically it is not possible.   but the state government officials are blindly sending their data's by mentioning their DRAWING OFFICERS CODE ONLY.

ANY WAY the Ministry of finance has to put on an end and restore the old system of filing 24Q.

Thanks for your valuable article by understanding the practical difficulties.

AUDITOR SEKAR.

 

DEAR FRIENDS

If any body got bin from any state government office?  

AUDITOR SEKAR

 

Originally posted by : Rajeev Kalra

 

RECENTLY NSDL/INCOME TAX  HAS ISSUED INSTRUCTION REGARDING TO QUOTE BIN( BOOK IDENTIFICATION NUMBER)IN ALL ETDS RETURNS   OF GOVT DEDUCTORS WHERE TAX IS REMITTED THROUGH TREASURY.

 

WE ARE FACING FOLLOWING PROBLEMS IN THIS REGARD:

 

1. TREASURY ARE FILING DATA OF TDS , DDO WISE NOT TAN WISE I.E , IF MANY OFFICES ARE HAVING DIFFERENT TAN IN THEIR NAME BUT HAVING COMMON DDO , TREASURY IS FILING DATA DDO WISE NOT TAN WISE. IT MEANS ALL DATA OF DIFFRENT TAN HOLDER IS POOLED UNDER COMMON DDO TAN. DATA OF BOOK IDENTIFICATION NUMBER IS NOT SHOWING IN THE TAN HOLDER NAME , IF IT IS SHOWING IT IS WRONG. IF BOOK IDENTIFICATION WILL NOT SHOWN THEN GOVT OFFICES WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO FILE THEIR ETDS RETURNS. AND INCOME TAX PENALTY WOULD BE ATTRACTED TO THESE TYPE OF CASES.

 

EXAMPLE: ONE INTER COLLEGE HAVING TAN MRTP00120B AND ANOTHER INTER COLLEGES MRTK00240C, AND THIRD INTER COLLEGE TAN IS MRTH00480C HAVE DEDUCTED TDS RS 1000, 2000, 3000 AND REMITTED TO TREASURY OF UTTAR PRADESH. THESE SCHOOLS ARE HAVING COMMON DDO SAY CONTROLER OF COLLEGES HAVING TAN NO. MRTC00960C. TREASURY IS REMITTING TDS RS 6000/-THROUGH DDO TAN(MRTC00960C) NOT BY ABOVE COLLEGES TAN. IT MEANS DDO TAN MRTC00960C IS HAVING TDS AMOUNT IN ITS 24G INFORMATION AND ANOTHER INTER COLLEGES’S 24 G INFORMATION IS SHOWING NIL INFORMATION. TREASURY OFFICE IS FILING DATA OF TDS THROUGH DDO TAN ONLY.

 

2. GOVT OFFICES WILL NOW FILE THEIR ETDS RETURNS AFTER FILING OF FORM 24-G BY TREASURY OFFICE , IF WRONG DATA OF 24-G HAS BEEN FILED THEN GOVT OFFICES WILL FACE MANY PROBLEMS. IN THIS CASE ALL GOVT OFFICES ARE DEPENDENT TO TREASURY OFFICE. IF WRONG DATA HAS BEEN ENTERED BY TREASURY OFFICE ,THEN GOVT OFFICE WILL REQUEST TO TREASURY OFFICE TO RECTIFY THE DATA AFTER THAT GOVT DATA WILL BE RECTIFIED.

 

3. IF WRONG TAN IS MENTIONED AS I DISCUSSED IN FIRST PARA THEN GOVT OFFICE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FILE THEIR RETURN AS BIN WOULD NOT SHOWN IN THEIR TAN DATA AND BOOK IDENTIFICATION NUMBER IS COMPULSORY TO FILE ETDS RETURNS. IF ETDS RETURN OF GOVT OFFICES HAVE NOT BEEN FILED OR FILED WRONG . THE DATA OF VARIOUS GOVT EMPLOYEES WOULD NOT SHOWN IN 26 AS.

4. IN THE MY OPINION ALL OTHER PERSONS ARE ALSO FACING THIS TYPE OF PROBLEMS.  AND IF CONSIDER THE DATA OF FILING THE ETDS REPORTS OF GOVT DEPATMENTS YOU WILL JUDGE THAT MANY OF GOVT OFFICES HAVES NOT FILES TDS RETURNS DUE TO THIS REASONS.


 

MY SUGGESTION IS THAT TDS OF ALL GOVT OFFICES SHOULD BE  DEPOSITED THROUGH BANK ONLY OR GUIDE TREASURY OFFICES TO FILE CORRECT DATA TAN WISE NOT DDO WISE AT RIGHT TIME OR OLD SYSTEM OF FILING OF GOVT ETDS RETRUNS SHOULD BE FOLLOWED TILL THE NEW SOLUTION.


I have got the same problem i.e. the Treasury put Wrong TAN which belongs to a Company. w.e.f. Jan-2011 to March-2013. In between several requests (verbal/letter) provided to the Treasury Officer to Rectify the TAN and put correct TAN then onwards but no response got the the Treasury Office. After the matter is posted the ACIT/JCIT (TDS) then the Treasury just corrected the TAN from April, 2013. Treasury denies to revise the earlier Form -24G where they put Wrong TAN (TAN Name is correct as they inserted BIN details on the notice board). Their consultant now demanding high fees to revise the old returns. Can anybody suggest what to do now ? Should I file the pending returns providing the BIN generated by the Treasury Office in a different TAN (Not Book Adjustment). As many employees have filed their Personal Returns and got CPC Demand Letter.

Plz suggest at the earliest.
 


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