Explanation for a journal entry


Prachi Srivastava (Finance)     12 October 2012

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Hi All,

Please give a detailed explanation for the Journal Entry given below. I was not able to understand what reasoning from Golden Rules was used to reach this Journal entry.

- Employees had taken stock worth 10,000(Cost price-7500) and the same was deducted from their salary in the subsequent month.

Journal entry-

Salaries A/C                                                                7,500

    To Purchase A/C                                                                                         7,500

Question-

1.Explanation for Debit and Credit using Golden Rules

2.Why 7,500 is being debited and Credited,why not 10,000.

 

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Anuj Jain (pqr)     12 October 2012

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I THINK U HAVE POSTED WROMG ENTRY. THE ENTRY SHOULD BE..........

SALARIES A/C      DR. (DEBIT ALL EXPENSES)         100000

      TO SALES A/C                                                                   10000

( HERE SALE ACCOUNT SHOULD BE CREDITED BEACUSE THE STOCK WHICH IS GOING OUT OF THE BUSINESS ISNOT ON COST PRICE BUT IT IS GOING OUT OF THE BUSINESS AT PROFIT [ 10000-7500] . PURCHASE ACCOUNT CAN BE CREDITED IF EMPLYEES TAKING GOODS AT COST PRICE NOT ON SALES PRICE)

HOPE THIS CAN HELP YOU. EXPERT'S COMMENTS ARE WELCOME.....................

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Abhinav (student)     12 October 2012

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u don't earn profit from ur employees. Had the owner withdrawn these goods entry would have been Drawings dr. 7500 to purchases. On similar lines...

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Aarush (Delhi)     12 October 2012

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Employee A/c     Dr   10000

To Sales       Cr    7500

To P&L                Cr     2500 (Profit between sales price and cost price, 10K-7.5K)

.................................................

Salaries A/c        Dr    7500 (Salaries expenses, maximum, assume matching concept)

To Employee A/c Cr   7500

...............................................

Balance Rs. 2500 will stand in employee a/c which will be recoverable.

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Hear Prachi mentioned stock and stock is the finished goods which is kept on premises/warehouse,and avilable for sale and distribution,

so why purchase will be debited?

the entry is.

Employee A/c Dr. 10,000  (Debit the reciever) (Personal A/c)

   Sales A/c  Cr.                       7500     (Cr. What goes Out) ( Real a/c)

   P&L A/c Cr.                           2500      (Credit all income and gains) (Nominal A/c)

on the acrual of salary

Salary A/c Dr   XXXX (whatever will be the salary)

       salary payable a/c   Cr. XXXX (recoverry)

        To employee a/c      Cr. XXXX ( balance after recovery)

thanks

    

 

Amjum (Accountant)     12 October 2012

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According to AS 9 “ Revenue Recognition “ revenue shall be recognized when transfer of property in goods and significant risks and rewards happened  and measurability and collectability is certain, hence the same shall be treated as sales. However In the given case certain goods have been taken by employee at cost and this might be the company policy that such items with limited number can be taken by employees at cost price without adding any profit on the same, moreover in the economic reality as per the substance of transaction the entity  allows the employee to take this item at cost price does not come in the ambit of  normal sale and treated at par with owners withdrawal. Hence the journal entry will be .

1.       Goods taken by employee

Employee account           Dr. 7500

Purchases                           Cr 7500( to reduce the cost to the extent of goods taken by employee)

2.       Salary booking

Salary  Expenses               Dr.7500 ( part of cost of stock)

Employee Account          Cr7500

3.       Final entry ( Employee account Debit and credit offset)

Salary Expenses A/c        Dr.7500

Purchases                           Cr.7500

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CA Suryakant Dubey (CA )     12 October 2012

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salary a/c dr. 7500

sales a/c  cr7500

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Deepak kumar sharma (Govt. job)     12 October 2012

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Originally posted by : Prachi Srivastava

 I was not able to understand what reasoning from Golden Rules was used to reach this Journal entry.

- Employees had taken stock worth 10,000(Cost price-7500) and the same was deducted from their salary in the subsequent month.

Journal entry-

Salaries A/C                                                                7,500

    To Purchase A/C                                                                                         7,500

Question-

1.Explanation for Debit and Credit using Golden Rules

2.Why 7,500 is being debited and Credited,why not 10,000.

 

Answer 1.

3 Golden rules are here under:-

(A) "Debit the receiver, credit the giver"

(B) "Debit what comes in, credit what goes out"

(C) "Debit all loses and expenses, credit all gains and incomes"
 

According to rule "C" part 1st - Debit the salary A/c

According to rule "B" part 2nd - credit the purchase A/c

 

Answer 2.

7500 is being debited and credited because its not sales. its like drwaings of stock by owner and payment as salary. Employees are not purchasing from Business but receiving salary from business hence profit does not arise here.

 

"- Employees had taken stock worth 10,000(Cost price-7500)"

You mentioned wrong information above. how you calculated stock at Rs.10000 when cost price is Rs. 7500 ( stock valued at lower of cost or selling price ) So stock is worth Rs. 7500 and not of Rs. 10000.

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CA Lokesh Pokharna (CA (Ahmedabad Bhilwara Chittorgarh))     13 October 2012

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explanation 1- its a sales ,   salary a/c dr

                                                              to sales a/c cr

exp. 2 - 7500 OR 10000 its not a big issue . it depend on employee & employer agreement

 

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Jatin Singh Negi (Country Analyst )     13 October 2012

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What is feel is that the company must have given away its stock at cost in that case the Journal entry that u have passed is correct.

Salary A/c Dr

  To Purchase A/c



But if the company sells the stock at a profit i.e higher than the cost price in that case the sale should have come in place of purchase along with a corresponding profit in credit side.

 

Salary A/c Dr

  To Sales A/c

   To Profit on sale of goods A/c

 

 

 

The above entries are perfectly in consonance with the accounting practice prevalent in India.


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