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Dummy articleship...........?

ekta (student) (623 Points)

19 July 2013

My friend is in c.a final...his father is c.a ...he had taken dummy articleship under his dad...so first of all tell me is it allowed to take articleship under blood relation?and should he disclose his friends if anybody asks that from where did he do articleship?so should he disclose that he had done articleship under his father and was on dummy as any of his friends can complain to insitute or if one of his friends become enemy by chance'he can complain to institute...so plz help me out?

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pawan gupta (article) (216 Points)
Replied 19 July 2013

Depends upon Friend become enemy....!! Firstly no Artcleship is allowed under Relative..including father...working under his father he cannot show anywhere in his CV during the period where he is regd...as article..i.e.for that period...! just as to say...Proving dummy is also not easy task..because person providing dummy ...has comply with formalities....!.

pawan gupta (article) (216 Points)
Replied 19 July 2013

N also if some day ur friend is caught..just aware that..the father must nt maintain ne record of his son or daughter

CA Ragini (CA) (405 Points)
Replied 20 July 2013

Plz clarify under which regulation of ICAI act it is given that we cannot do articleship under our relatives....specially parents.

ANKUSH (Article Trainee) (320 Points)
Replied 20 July 2013

Dear ekta There is no such a rule in ca regulation to serve as article under relative. One can serve articleship under relative positively but subject to maintain records by principal as well as article.

pawan gupta (article) (216 Points)
Replied 20 July 2013

Ragini...employer sections padho ek baar

CA Ragini (CA) (405 Points)
Replied 20 July 2013

Pawan ......can you plz forward me the link??

pawan gupta (article) (216 Points)
Replied 20 July 2013

Icai site me hai........! if im wrong correct me bcoz a CA has told me....!.!

Sathish M (Management Accountant) (40581 Points)
Replied 20 July 2013

Pawan sir, only if you are 100 % sure of a particular provision, you ought to state the facts. You cannot hoodwink people to say, I heard someone saying, it is completely unacceptable to make such fallacies. Kindly proivide right guidance to people if you completely know the fact else restrain from uttering something which is incorrect.

Initially you commented :

"Ragini...employer sections padho ek baar"

Later you post:

"Icai site me hai........! if im wrong correct me bcoz a CA has told me....!.!"

Anubhav (Student) (589 Points)
Replied 21 July 2013

@ Satish M...You rule boss...Saved me a few words.

@ others : Actually at least at the time I registered myself for the articleship, there was no information on this topic. I read the CA act, two times and I could not find it. I also searched for such guideline by insitute and I found none. Then I asked a board member and he suggested, that there was no such restriction even in his knowledge.

In fact I myself got registered with my father's firm.

@ To people who wants to know how you feel at the end of the tunnel:

Pros:

1.I was able to work for my father who needed my assistance and I actually was working with him from 10th vacation onwards, so joining any other office felt like cheating.

2.I did not feel guilty that I was working for peanuts, the feeling I would have had, had I actually joined any other firm.

3.My father initially was aggressive with me and did not allow me to handle any single work completely but that changed later and I infact got better exposure with what all types of work we had.

Cons:

1.I always felt guilty that I am not struggling as others were, since being a father my principal could not be that hard on me unless it was floods of work.. Also we did not have any bank audit or too many co-operative audits which I would have like to gain more exposure in.

2.The biggest problem but was exposure to new opportunities or new types of work for which I would had to leave my city which was unacceptable to my parents.

3.I was not paid a single rupee during my articleship period effectively since my expenses were completely controlled by my father so rs.1500 cheque was just a formality for me.

4.I had to work according to his hours which were normally upto 3 am daily, all sundays and during audit months only 4 hours sleep, but then I guess most of us had to do it.

5.I was always promised that I will get many full days for my own studies, but I never saw one actually.

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pawan gupta (article) (216 Points)
Replied 21 July 2013

oyye satish M bhai....galti sabse hoti ha...mere se bhi hui...hogi if im wrong....jab CA ne hi...galat btaya..toh..wat can i do i this.....just only believe.........!! dnt create such things & scene

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Sathish M (Management Accountant) (40581 Points)
Replied 21 July 2013

Pawan, I agree that to err is human, but I just intended to say we should support our arguments based on facts. Some one says something becomes immaterial if it is ones opinion. We are bound by rules and regulations and my only appeal to respected members is to substantiate the truth based on content and not by hearsay. Please understand the genuine concern of the person who is seeking your opinion and believing what ever one says here to be true. Hence, guide people in the right direction.

pawan gupta (article) (216 Points)
Replied 21 July 2013

ya iknw.....satish m.....bhai...nw...it was my fault...nw bfore giiving ne info....i have to sure 100%..!

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Sathish M (Management Accountant) (40581 Points)
Replied 21 July 2013

Well Thank you Pawan for realising that we need to be circumspect before we air our views. I urge others too follow suit in future when providing your valuable suggestion / opinion.