Difference Between CA and MBA? - Experience of a GMCS Trainer

Dear Mr. Sathish M,

First I would like to thank you for taking interest in my  post.

No other person than myself could agree more with your observation which is so true. But there is one thing that we should not forget that each one of such students from tier2 or tier3 cities, have access to internet, take coaching classes from tutors in Delhi or other semi-urban areas and get monthly news letter from ICAI and these are the three venues which MUST be effectively used in order to sensitize them.

People like me can only take initiatives like I have taken through my website which is totally a non-profit oriented venture, which can reach smaller places through internet. But the willingness to take advantage of such things must come from within the candidate which can be sensitized only by the institute because if a candidate in remote area can update facebook activity on a daily basis, then he can certainly visit a website like www.howtocrackaninterview.com or any other such website to hone his skills.

Originally posted by : Sathish M

Thank you Krishna for your words of encouragement. the most required thing in cracking any interview is to learn good english speaking skills. I am starting a unique program from 15th April on my website which again is absolutely free of cost and does not require any enrolment. The name of the program is Hindi to English.

Try to spread the word so that it can help maximum number of people and they can be anyone ranging from a housewife to a chartered accountant.

Originally posted by : * Krishna *

You are absolutely right in saying so Ashwani. But we are not comparing two people or two professions.

But would you not agree if I say that:

• CAs also require all those additional characteristics which an MBAs already have?
• Communication, presentation skills etc are equally required for CAs for their personal as well as professional growth?
• Not having these skills pushes a CA back a few years in terms of financial and heirarchial growth?
• It's impossible to join a large MNC without acquiring these skills?
• and the growth becomes stagnant, if you lack these skills?

Yes, you would. Hence, idea is not to compare the two but learn what different an MBA does to achieve these skills and start doing them yourselves actively because your course doesn't make enough provisions from them.

Philosophy sounds good but only after retirement. Before that, practicality rules.

Originally posted by : CA Ashwani Narnoli

Thanks Sidhant

Originally posted by : sidhant saha

The Dumbest thing for a wise person to do is to show disregard for other person's hard work, knowledge, skill and qualification.

For your information Ms. Ankita, every organization is run by more than 75% MBAs, hardly 5% of whom are from IIMs. Its like saying that a CA completed in 4 attempts is no good as compared to that completed in 1st, although the reason could be simply the lack of ability to form proper answers, as you only said. Also, as a CA you can calculate better that even if entire population is equally intelligent, still given the number of seats at premier institutes, the larger population will be studying in lower grade institutions.

Now let me answer all your points.

1. It's not about comparing a CA with MBA and it's not about what they don't have and you have. It's about what they have but you don't and you certainly need it. It's about You and not Them.

2. I have already said, that it's inadequate, yet it is indeed a good initiative because, unlike an MBA, it's not a residential program and given the costs of MBA course, CA is still very low priced with equally good opportunities. Secondly, the amount GMCS charges CA students is nothing as compared to the fees you may have to pay at private institutions. Finally, I believe in the notion that "Something is better than Nothing"

3. I already emphasized the very fact raised by you that BASIC ENGLISH knowledge has to come first before starting anything else, because as you truly said, most of you can't make proper sentences but it's not your fault. it's our country's shortcoming which because of it's extreme diverse nature can not make any particular regional language as a national language and has to rely upon a foreign language. If you visit other nations, they have their national language German, Spanish or French as the main medium of imparting education and MNCs, if they have to do business in their country, must learn their language. Just because you are from a metro or from a background which gave you enough exposure doesn't give you a right to abase more than 60% of population.

and again, I would reiterat, It's not about comparing but identifying what they have but you don't and to start working for it.

With due Respect to whatever you have said Vaibhav Sir, I would like to make a few points.

 

1. MBAs may have excellent presentation and communication skills but most of them LACK basic knowledge about the subjects which we have. MBA is just a show business unless done from IIMs or Similar institutions. So there is no point in comparing CAs with MBAs.

 

2.GMCS may be a good initiative as it appears on the face of it. But everyone knows the real intention of ICAI in starting it. (GANDHIJI)

 

3. Before coming to communication or presentation, our CA students must first learn BASIC ENGLISH. It is very disappointing to see many CAs who do not even know how to write a porper sentence in english. In past 4 attempts (May 11 to Nov 12) many such students have cleared the exam. I do not understand how examiners evaluate their papers..??

Please I request you to not to get into a fruitless debate. The idea behind posting this thread is not to provoke a controversy but simply to make CAs realize that, if they need to compete fiercely in the corporate environment then they must work on things that are beyond their routine course but are highly demanded.

Originally posted by : HariHaran Puthiran