Depreciation as per it act

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hi,

I am having a sole proprietory concern with a turnover exceeding 1 crore. My Fixed Assets schedule consists of: -

1. Plant & Machinery 15% Block - Rs. 90,00,000/-

2. Four Wheeler 15% Block - Rs. 11,00,000/-

3. Two Wheeler 15% Block - Rs. 35,500/- (Purchase date - 01.04.2012)

4. Furniture & Fixtures - 10% Block - Rs. 90,000/-

I have sold two wheeler for Rs. 30,000/- during the year 30.10.2014 & didn't purchased a new one. I want to know the computation of depreciation & the treatment on loss of sale of fixed assets in my books?

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There would be no gain / loss on sale as the other assets would continue to exist and also block will be positive. Depreciation will be calculated on net balance after reduction of sale proceeds (Opening wdv + additions in first half - sale proceeds)
There would be no gain / loss on sale as the other assets would continue to exist in block and also block will be positive. Depreciation will be calculated on net balance after reduction of sale proceeds (Opening wdv + additions in first half - sale proceeds)

Thanks Bhavinji for your valuable feedback.

But our auditor is saying in accounts you have to treat the loss on sale of fixed assets by Rs.5500 & deduct it either from Capital A/c. (since ours is a proprietorship firm) or deduct it from Net Profit & then add back in your computation as it is disallowable. And no depreciation would be allowed on the balance of Rs. 5500/-.

I am not sure whether we should accept their view or should i argue? If the point of view of them is correct then i dont have not issues but what if they are wrong, do we face any problem in future?

Hi Sahil,

you need to calculate the loss or gain on the assets which was purchased. Kindly note that in order to calculate the loss or gain you should know the following information:

1. Purchase amount

2. Accumulated Depreciation

3. Sale Amount

Loss/Gain of assets = 1 minus 2 minus 3.

if the above figures is negative than booked as gain or vice a versa.

Hope you find above in order.

 

Regards

Manish Jain

Email:manishjaincfa @ gmail.com

Depreciation and profit and loss on sale of asset are both different in accounts as well as income tax. 

In accounts, each asset is a separate asset and each asset is individually depreciated and profit/ loss on sale of asset is individually considered.

Whereas in taxation, block of assets method is followed and gains/ loss is considered only when

1. Block is empty and closing balance of the block turns positive (stcl)

2. Block is empty and closing balance of the block turns negative (stcg)

3. Block is not empty but closing balance in the block turns negative (stcg)

Now, in the present case, as per accounts, depreciation on each asset will be separately calculated and in case of 2 wheeler, there will be depreciation for 2 years and 7 months (suppose say rate for 2 wheeler was also 15% wdv) then in such case there would be a profit on sale of asset. It could not have resulted into a loss anyhow.

Secondly such depreciation would be added back and profit so derived would be subtracted while computing profit from business in income tax. Depreciation as per it act will be separately calculated and deducted from profits while computing profits from business.

Depreciation as per IT act will be 15% block and 10% block separately. I.e individual identity of p&m, 4 wheeler and 2 Wheeler is lost. Depreciation will be calculated on closing wdv(cl. wdv = op. wdv + purchases - sold).

Hence sale of 2 wheeler would not result in any profits/losses as per it act. Hence as per accounts, any gains or losses would be adjusted accordingly to arrive at profits from business.

So ideally your auditors are partially correct


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