An open questionnaire to MR Uttam Agrawal n coming icai prez

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Respected ICAI president(i dunt guarantee the respect;just a formality),

a) HAs your so called anti-dummy march 27 announcement done any good to curb dummy articleship? From now on, students will directly become dummy instead in last 1.5 years of articleship. IPCC students are much smarter than CPT students and they know what they will be facing in hectic schedules with mean,openly insulting principals.

b)I think you made the announcement not to curb dummy articles; but you had stated "hardships faced by members when students take transfer to go smaller firms with less work pressure". Is it necessary that lesser work pressure means dummy. I allege that ICAI thinkthank got this terribly wrong or it was deliberately used by you and CCM to curb transfer just to satiate members' votes as the elections were coming in 2009.

c) I can guarantee some CAs might be happy; but i have met and talked to many CAs who are irritated by this rule. Suppose; he has an article who is not working that much; its not in his capacity. In earlier cases; he would tell him to go to other firms as he didn't fit in his office. As per the recent rules; he will have to continue to keep the person. The only way to get rid of him is to make his articleship nil.

  what logic does that make.Suppose he has worked 2 years properly. But now due to family,financial, problems he is not able to sit overnight or work for long hours. CAs may be mean; there are very few members who would wish to play with careers of budding CAs ie students by making their articleship nil.

d) I feel that ur rule is like POTA. Largely hyped in the beginning, but ineffective,against human rights; offen affecting the innocent students, made ambigous so that the authorities ie you can manipulate it to your own wish.

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yes jose you are right. The current rule is against students. One more good thing he has done increased CPT fees to 6000/- .

he is a crack.his only view is that he has passed CA with great difficulty.we may agree and adore his achievements.but he has went over and above that.now he is of the view that everyone should pass like him with difficulty.for those students who have less difficulties, he will be there for creating problems.

yes by this rule dummy articleship is being promoted

now IPCC students will start with dummy to avoid inconvenience in their future study like us

Seems hardship with students. why to stop the articels from thir basic right. when you are restricting transfer which is only allowed by mutual consent why not to set them free?? why to impose any law which has no good mpact.

There can be lot of solution to stop dummies. why dont you think on that. this is the worse time students are facing still thereis no action from ICAI or action ki chodo there is no reply on our queries !!

!! For whom is ICAI going on...!!

A Helping hand here is enough to let them show your power frneds.

Thank you sir; CAs who are understanding to plight of student are really few in number. What steps should been taken by icai to stop dummy?

 

CAs elect icai to solve their problems. But they have solved it half-heartedly; and increased plight of students.

Originally posted by :CA CS* Prakash Somani (A helping Hand)
" Seems hardship with students. why to stop the articels from thir basic right. when you are restricting transfer which is only allowed by mutual consent why not to set them free?? why to impose any law which has no good mpact.
There can be lot of solution to stop dummies. why dont you think on that. this is the worse time students are facing still thereis no action from ICAI or action ki chodo there is no reply on our queries !!
!! For whom is ICAI going on...!!
A Helping hand here is enough to let them show your power frneds.
"


 

thanx sir we need ur support in this regard

 

Why can not we oppose the restiction on transfer ? I have called to ministry of corporate affars . They told me just make sign of atleast 500 students against the restiction on transfer we will order to Mr. Uttam to remove the restiction on transfer.

Hello Ms.Poonam ( No harsh feelings)

The Human Resouce Dept (Herein referred to as HRD) is a mere ploy nothing more than that.

 

Students hav filed Writ petition, PILs etc but in vain.

 

All we need to make His highness, His Holiness CA UTTAMJI, that bonded labour is history and as they say History repeats i think he is repeating this black istory wid CA students.

I know not much are affected by this rule of no tranfer oz as per my facts and figure more than 70% students complete their artilceship at one place only. But the mere fact of depriviation a basic right hurts.

 

This signing and sending thing is a mere piece of crap.

If u want U can try it out coz we hav tried it here, the students of Mra-Bhayander ( Place in Mumbai and the CA hub of Mumbai) had signed and sent a requsition to the insti and the HRD to abolish this wicked rule.

Till then

Have Phun, Njoy.

Radhe Radhe.

 

If your statistics of 70 pc are true; the reasons behind it could be:

a) Pehle se they are under their relative,mom dad, or papa's CA;or in paid dummy articleship. I am not saying of this category all are dummy. There may be students who are enjoying "privileged articleship" and not necessarily dummy articleship.Privileged means that they do go to office but

    i) on their own wish.      ii)go on leave on their own wish   iii)no extended hours for them

Pehle se if you are having such articleship; who would want transfer.

b) Hum toh regular articleship wale hain. And we don't have any beneficiary CAs who act as our "benefactor". So we are boumd to move from one CA to another either because of CA's callous attitude or in search of better work expeience

Originally posted by :Aashish Dinanath Tripathi
" Hello Ms.Poonam ( No harsh feelings)
The Human Resouce Dept (Herein referred to as HRD) is a mere ploy nothing more than that.
 
Students hav filed Writ petition, PILs etc but in vain.
 
All we need to make His highness, His Holiness CA UTTAMJI, that bonded labour is history and as they say History repeats i think he is repeating this black istory wid CA students.
I know not much are affected by this rule of no tranfer oz as per my facts and figure more than 70% students complete their artilceship at one place only. But the mere fact of depriviation a basic right hurts.
 
This signing and sending thing is a mere piece of crap.
If u want U can try it out coz we hav tried it here, the students of Mra-Bhayander ( Place in Mumbai and the CA hub of Mumbai) had signed and sent a requsition to the insti and the HRD to abolish this wicked rule.
Till then
Have Phun, Njoy.
Radhe Radhe.
"


 

yaar is uttamji ko koi hatao yaar ! Is ne to icai ki value down kar di !


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