Accounting doubt

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Mr. X incurs expenditure towards Hotelling, Travelling on behalf of Mr. Y and raises a Debit note to M/s XYZ ( M/s XYZ has hired Mr. Y for their work). So Mr. X raises a Debit Note in the name of M/s XYZ for the reimbursement of expenses incurred by him on behalf of Mr. Y.  And finally raises a separate sale invoice to M/s XYZ towards his (Mr. X) commission.

 

Q1) Is it necessary that a separate Debit Note should be raised in the name of M/s XYZ for the reimbursement of expenses or such expenses should be added in the Sales Commission Bill and then be recovered?

 

Q2) Whether the whole bill shall be taxable or only the Sales Commission part shall be taxable?

 

Q3) If a separate Debit Note is to be issued towards reimbursement of expenses, then what will be the accounting treatment?

 

Please Guide.

 

 

 

Regards,

Devendra Kulkarni

Replies (6)

(Note: while providing opinion following has been considered:

1. Mr. X is a commission agent.

2. He provides taxable service.)

 

Ans 1. It depends what policies and norms he follows... He may include the reimbursement expense in his bill also. As he is commission agent, the commission he earns is revenue for him.

2.  Only revenue part is taxable ( Both under Income Tax as well as Finance Act 1994)

3. For reimbursement of expenditure:

XYZ  A/c   ....Dr

  To Bank A/c

a. for commssion

XYZ A/c   .....Dr

    To Sales/Commssion A/c

 

Dear Devendra ,

Your query is not so clear......Because as you said Mr.X is working onbehalf of Y & again he raises (Mr.x) his debit note in the name of XYZ Ltd. Then you are saying that Mr.Y is raising entire bill (Sales Commission + expenses ). Anyways till the extent what i understood i'll express my opinion.

1.) From Service tax point of view :

If Mr.x is charging as it is expenses incurred by him in the debit note i.e. without any profit element...then such amount is not subject to service tax......As working in the capacity of Pure agent.

2.)From TDS point of view : If some one is providing combine bill i.e. service charges + out of pocket expenses then entire amount is subject to tds. But if you provide independent bill for reimbursement of out of pocket expenses , then such bill is not subject to tds.

3.) Entry will be..........Expenses a/c ......dr
                                       to X/y a/c

 

Varshi t shah

 

1) It is prudent business practice and tax planning to raise the debit note and sale invoice seperately to avoid unncessary income tax and service tax complications.

2) Sales invoice pertains to Commission alone is liable for TDS and ST

3) For Debit note, entry for reimdurement of travelling expenses of Mr.Y should be:

a) on receiving the Debit note:   

        Expenses A/c .......Dr.              xxxxxx

        To X A/c                                                 xxxxxx

 b) On actual payment::

        X A/c    ............Dr                   xxxxxx

        To Cash or Bash A/c                          xxxxxx

 

For reimbursement of expenses - no TDS....  if reimbursement of expenses and services charges invoice was raised seperately.

In present case two seperate invoices ie., for Reimbursement and Comission.

So TDS and service tax applicable to Commision part and not applicable to reimbursement part.

 

 

It's good if you raised separte debit note and sales bill as one relates to the reimbursement and othe is related to business(comission)

secondly, if you raise one sales bill for commission and reimbursement in that case tax would be payable on total invoice value and it's a loss for your company.

Lastly if you raised a separate debit note then you have to pass an entires

expenses ac debit to XXXXX

to m\s xyz account    XXXXXX

next when you receive the amount in that case

x ac debit to XXXXX

to bank ac  XXXXX

I hope it clear the doubt buddy

 

 

 

 

can one someone give me the format of debit note for services rendered by the parent company to the subsidiary company like technical & marketing support, etc., and also for reimbursement of expenses.


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