Marks can be revised

So what do you mean??

What do you want to say by publish this section???? Kindly clarify..

My dear friends, it means ICAI is in a position to decide the pass percentage and it has the power to tamper with your result.

Read the para 2, which says that the council of ICAI has the discretion to "REVISE THE MARKS OBTAINED". It means even after obtaining final marks council would be in a position to revise them, in order to maintain the pass %age of students.

Hope, now you would be able to interprete it easily !

Regards,

(with a special pose of mine)

Yes............. you are right ........Mr. R D Khan.

yes i agree wid u sir,the institute has the power to revise the marks obtained or u can say manipulate the results,.

But sir, i think it is a wrong move by them.By doing this,they are producing CA's who are not worthed to serve the country or for a job and worthed & intelligent ones left out.I am not pointing out to all but 1 or 2%.

The entry level i.e. CPT  should be made tough.

every mark is blood of the student and  his/her parents wishes and that too life time ambition.  if i able to secure 65%+ in a subject because of well planned and exeduted study why i should not award the marks and  where come the institute and its standard.     Can the icai ensure that all  its members has signed on the balance sheet with books of accounts only  ..it cant. ...then why to play with student life...   What punishement has been award for satyam auditors or auditors like that one.    then where is morality of icai to punish/kill the student by taking away their legitimate right on the marks award

if icai is carring about the professionalism to regulate the results what standards its maintaing to regulate its members... there are many members even with limited knowledge than students...

icai is tough in everything towards students they should atlesast give the results as such rather than revising it..

so that there will always be a true and fair view in examination results.

I have emailed the following letter conveying my feeling to President and all othe council member (Email id available on ICAI site) All students/parents can also do so to save themselves in future for such eratic system victims.

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Dear Sir,

The recent trend of the CA final Exams results are not only very shocking but also speaks of the arbitrariness being followed in the evaluation of the papers. Having the exam standards unnecessarily tough, keeping the evaluation procedures conveniently opaque and ensuring only a token output exams after exams, a pertinent doubt being raised is whose cause are ICAI serving?

I really don't understand this concept of quality being made so loud and am rather even amused by it. The method being followed for achieving the so called “QUALITY” output is summarily wrong. Look at how IIMs and IITs achieve the same objective by conducting the toughest entrance tests with transparency. This method makes sure that students never face their career dilemma at the end of their career where SUDDENLY their QUALITY is questioned after 3- 4 years of their best efforts.

I am convinced that There is only the arbitrariness on the part of the ICAI at every point in time. My conviction has come from the facts

1)    Without planning while declaring the schedule of the NOV 2009 exams in July 2009 the options which were used to be there were removed arbitrarily just before ONE MONTH PRIOR to the exams. This was a policy decision which in a professional manner would have been taken at the time of declaring the exams itself. Is this a quality decision?

2)      Declaration of diluting on questions on AS 30-32 just 4 days in advance and then asking a 18 marks questions despite such announcement. This shows the coordination QUALITY of the paper setting and evaluation style. Who cared about the students in the process?

3)       And there are many more such events happening like the one of the NOV2009 and MAY 2010 results

 The affirmation of my conviction came with the QUALITY of the results of May-2010 Final exams results. If the ICAI is serious in setting quality parameters which should be uniform across the board, the question papers will have to be only on Objective basis and papers corrected only by computers, without any possibility of human bias.

What makes me worry is, as the passing percentage of CPT and the Final years students suggest, ICAI will continue with its fantasy of improving QUALITY without adopting the  correct course and make the careers of thousands of student miserable in the end.

 It is not enough to keep bragging that we have the best examination standards and procedures. If such procedures play with thousands of students' careers, it will be graceful to make the procedures better, transparent and hassle-free.

I would urge that the ICAI takes the nonsensical 'aggregate' pattern out of the system and adopt a fresh approach as being professionally done  by the premier institutes like IIMs/IITs which will not only save students ruining their careers after a lapse of their golden time of life but will PUT ICAI IN LINE WITH ONE OF THE REAL PREMIER INSTITUTE OF INDIA. Till such time these professional system is adopted ICAI must ensure that the careers of thousand of students who have spent heftily on their studies and with great aspiration in mind be given true and fair treatment in the exams as it is not their fault but the system fault adopted by ICAI.

I hope ICAI will understand the worry and will really do changes to make ICAI one among the premier Institute in real sense as is the case with IIMs/IITs of India.

 With best regards

ATUL DESAI

9825420038

Father of a student with ICAI

HI,

I think ICAI is manipulating my marks right from my 1st attempt ie NOV 08. I was expecting 65+ marks in DT and CM. i secured only 55 in DT and 51 in CM nd didn't get exemption. It is only due to this that I have failed now too. Incase I could get exemption in both or atleast in DT, I could have definately cleared my  second grp too in June 09 . I went and failed in DT and CM and fell short by just 18 marks for set off.

in my opinion the entry level i.e. CPT Should be made very tough if institute wants to maintain its standard of result

Dear All,

I agree with Mr. Khan as the ICAI is maintaining the standards of pass percentage provided in these Regulations.

I m the CA Finalist & appearing for the CA Final exam for last 5 years. If ICAI clear the student in hugh quantity then we would also be like the Lawyers who are waiting outside the court to get a case to survive. Even we would be standing outside the income tax office to get a case.

ICAI is maintaing the dignity of the CA so that we would get respect, intigrity & dignity i our professional work.

I salute to our institute & the authorities sitting on the position to perform such difficult tasks.Even I would have been in their position would have done that.

Instead of blaming ICAI, we would rather concentrate on the studies plan to clear the CA exam.
INSTEAD OF FINDING FAULT IN OTHERS & WASTING ARE TIME & ENERGY. RATHER TRY TO OVERCOME THE WEAKNESS & STRENGTH OURSELF.

ALL THE BEST TO ALL STUDENT

THANKS & REGARDS

IMTIYAZ SHAIKH (CA Finalist)

skimti @ rediff.com