E-diary ghost:Do u think ICAI has propr Infra in place?

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I want to ask all members and students some burning questions:

a)What’s ur view on tacky,unreliable IT technology? Every results of icai especially PCC/IPCC is delayed for 3-5 days.Now-a-days, the website hardly opens in quick time.Even downloading a document of 200kb gives a speed of 1kbps.That also at the time of broadband and 3G.What a shame?







b)Will the so called phased implementation be applicable for old students ? At the time when they are on the verge of completion of the tiresome articleship; is this the right thing to put a burden on them? Another problem for them is that this is an entirely new platform for all students,and with history of icai’s dubious history of IT ;(, the students as well as the members will be wary of that.







c)What about the technical issues regarding the rules and regulations? A student might have taken transfer and obviously spoilt his/her relationship with prior CA.How will he have the e-diary signed?







d)What will be the mode for authentication of the online e-diary? Will the student need to secure a Digital signature or ask his CA to authenticate it with his DS?

e)Does ICAI have enough staff to scrutinize all the returns? They don’t have enough staff to check the exam form in time,process our application for registration,form 112,form 108 etc in time? Our forms takes ages to get processed. THEN WHY OVERBURDEN THE PRESENT STAFF WITH ADDITIONAL WORKS BEFORE IMPROVING THE BASIC WORKINGS.







h) I have begun noticing many complaints related to esahayata in CCI till late.People can't find verification links in their emails.





i)The system of holidays isn’t the same all over the nation.Even in same city; some get 7 days holiday in Diwali or a day off during Holi or Republic day;whereas his friend in another firm in same city doesn’t get holiday on the same day.



j)Suppose CA XYZ exploits his students making him do work of peons also like serving water to guests/client,do u think the CA will accept that in the online e-diary. Will he accept how many extra hours he has forced the article to work or less holidays he has given to the unfortunate human?Has ICAI installed biometric cards at all CA firms in India that will accurately and unbiasedly record the arrival time and departure time of office ?

This could be just his grand plans.But I feel before any new stuff is introduced,he should consult the students as well.We don’t have an organized Student’s Association.The present one consists of CAs ;then how will our concerns be addressed?

 

My suggestions and viewpoint for this: 

a)First of all,make this stuff applicable for students who register their Form 102/103 since 2009 or 2010 not for those who are in their final years of articleship.

b)Basic amenities of the ICAI website should be fast and reliable: like Knowledge portal,ICAI in News,etc. 

c)We all know ICAI PARIVARTAN project has just begun and it will take 16 months to be completed.ICAI has chosen vendors for the same.(notified in icai in websites few months ago).

d)Till ICAI parivartan isn’t completed,implemented and fully given thumbs up by the members for their work;plz don’t make the HALF BAKED UNRELIABLE SYSTEM an additional source of worry for an unready burdened students.



e)Sir, you should concentrate on implementing Live video lectures in ICAI centres;making e-sahayata foolproof for students.



f)Before implementing this scheme,FIRST HAVE in-time results of pcc/ipcc/final for 2 times(this may and November 2011 without a single-day of delay.That will assuage the nerves of lacs of students who undergo articleship.



 

WHEN IT COMES TO DOUBLING STIPEND AND REDUCING ARTICLESHIP OF PCC STREAM STUDENTS TO 3 YEARS;ICAI PUTS THE ONUS ON PARLIAMENT THAT THE PROPOSAL IS WITH CENTRAL GOVERNMENT.WHILE BANNING TRANSFER, ICAI IS ABOVE CG,it seems.

LET’S SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN CASE OF E-DIARY? 

Friends,co-students as well as learned Members,plz echo your opinions,suggestions and apprehensions.













 

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you have nice suggestions which i think should reach to CA inst. go on and express yoruself  :)

Yes, u r ryt, all r true, but what we can do .sad. We are students only .

The power of students is immense.After all;the students of today will run icai in future.Never underestimate urself.If a common man in Egypt can start a revolution by just posting a simple Facebook status message;we are CA students,right.Believe in yourself.

Here's what we can do at the moment.

a)Please give/forward the link to the article to as my Caclubindia member/students as you can.Tell them to read it carefully and give valuable suggestions.Use private messages if u want.

b)Then copy paste the articles and modify it as per ur language,style;add ur suggestions as well and then start emailing the ICAI official email ids like

a)bosnoida @ icai.org

president @ icai.org

(i will post more email addresses shortly)

If u read president's address of past 2 years;u must have noticed that many times they are somewhat pressurised or affected by students "email tactics or requests".

TOGETHER WE CAN,TOGETHER WE WILL.

You people can also share it in ur facebook account.

some times icai has been taking wrong decissions ..we all know that the e-dairy concept is not good at all...and also heavy burden to the icai(especially for the staff).....why dont they double our stipend which meets our needs..  and why dont they reduce period of articleship or attempt for the final

icai should consentrate on common things first

icai don't try to fool us by acting oversmart.we are not fools.An e diary which exposes the wrong doings of CAs won't be authenticated by them.First solve our basic prooblems.If not increasing the stipend,then please check the implementation of the so called regulation of maximum 35 hours a week.Your this specific rule is very hollow.Just don't add to the list of your half baked rules.

And as far as e-diary concept is concerned,have you decided upon the standards of assessing this e-diary...The minimum number of audits,are you ok with the article made to work as office boy...first tell us your standards and then only the articles can welcome your move.


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