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Depre allowability Sec 40(A)3

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Kashyap Joshi (Proprietor ) (260 Points)
Replied 17 November 2009

Depreciation is governed by sec 32 and not 40A(3).

 

First of all dep. is disallowed if the following conditions are not satisfied u/s 32 :-

1) Assessee does not own the asset (except some exceptions).

2) Assessee does not use the asset in the revelant previous year.

 

Secondly, Sec. 40A(3) does not apply to any capital expenditure. Here the word "CAPITAL EXPENDITURE" is important.

Sec. 40A(3) applies only to "EXPENDITURE INCURRED IN CASH".

Depreciation is not an expenditure. It is just a charge over the asset - A NON CASH ITEM.

So there is no scope disallowance of depreciation under sec. 40a(3).

 



Nikhil (CA) (140 Points)
Replied 18 November 2009

The point given by Mr Singhania is his interpretation of the section . You can follow his rare opinion which is correct but only for exams and not practically for your client.


CA Abdul Haseeb (Employed) (147 Points)
Replied 18 November 2009

LOGICAL VIEW: Firstly we have got to see y the framers have included this section and wats their idea . The whole idea of this section is to capture the transactions of the assessee which are above certain amount (Rs. 20000). In this regard capital assets too should be bought into the purview of this section    

BUT 

now lets see the words of the act.. it says 'all those EXPENDITURE incurred by the assesee which is allowed as deuction under the act' should be paid through a acc payee if it exceeds 20000 . please keep in mind the word 'EXPENDITURE'. For a asset expenditure is incurred and for depreciation no expenditure is incurred  and the act does not allow any deduction for buying a capital asset . hence depreciation is out of the view. and hence allowable in any case.

This view is also held by the Tax conceptual Guru TN Manoharan


CA Jyoti (student) (114 Points)
Replied 18 November 2009

i think dhiraj is ryt ...the section disallows amount exceeding 20,000 which are paid in cash...which were otherwise allowed , and that too of only REVENUE  EXPENDITURE ...SO DEPRICIATION CANNOT BE DISALLOWED....



(Guest)

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Sec 40A(3) is not applicable for purchase of a capital asset. 

So if someone has purchased a building for Rs 100000 and makes the payment in cash nothing will be disallowed.

 





(Guest)

There is no room to disallow depreciation.... depreciation is a non cash expenditure so there should be no confusion about the payment exceeding Rs.20000 since no cash is paid for allowing depreciation.......

 


Aditya Khaitan (Manager Accounts & Tax) (40 Points)
Replied 18 November 2009

1) payment made in cash is  for "PURCHASE OF ASSET" (which is not an expenditure i.e.it is  acquistion of asset)

2)Depreciation is an allowable expenditure since it is not a cash expenditure.....

To Conclude,DEPRECIATION MUST BE ALLOWED irrespective of mode of acquistion of capital asset


CA Dhiraj Ramchandani (CA, M. com) (10823 Points)
Replied 18 November 2009

Thank u members overhere, appreciating my answer.... Coz i really didnt find any logic to disallow ANY NON-CASH expenditure u/s 40 a 3.., as itself deals with cash espenditure only


kabirsen (student) (251 Points)
Replied 20 November 2009

 it refers to expense....that is an outflow

depreciation is a reserve...

expense cant be equated with a reserve

therefore depriciation can only be claimed on expenditure...and assets are not covered


CA. SUDHARSAN K G (Chartered Accountant) (472 Points)
Replied 22 November 2009

hi gaurav,

Read the Sec 40 a(3) thouroughly. Scope of the Section is to fix the limit on revenue expenditure &not on capital expenditure. THAT TOO HAVE CERTAIN SITUATIONS EXEMPLTED UNDER RULE 6D




CA SURENDRA KUMAR RAKHECHA (Practising CA at Surat) (26258 Points)
Replied 07 December 2009

The nature of the depreciation is of allowance. Section 32(1) says :

the following deductions shall be allowed-

So depreciation is based on certain percentage and use of assets for the purpose of business; owned wholly or partly.

The purpose of allowing depreciation is to give a booster to the industry. That is why additional depreciation is also allowed.

So depreciation is not an expenditure; it is an allowance which is in line with erstwhile Investment Allowance (Sec. 32A).

Ca Surendra Rakhecha

Surat


CA SURENDRA KUMAR RAKHECHA (Practising CA at Surat) (26258 Points)
Replied 07 December 2009

Originally posted by :Gaurav
"

As per Section 40(A)(3) if any assest purchased by way of cash exceeding more than Rs. 20,000/- then depreciation on that is diallowed in that year. My Question is whether in subsequent year depreciation is allowable on that assest????

I appreciate the discussion by various participants. The concept should be very clear. This will help a lot at the time of practise or job.  In real world, the depreciation may run into crores of rupees. At that time; if concept is not clear; your single mistake may turn into heavy penalties to the assessee.

Ca Surendra Rakhecha

Surat

"


 


Rajeev (www.rkmco.com) (985 Points)
Replied 08 December 2009

Where the assessee incurs ANY expenditure in respect of which a payment or aggregate of payments made to a person in a day, otherwise than by an account payee cheque drawn on a bank or account payee bank draft, exceeds twenty thousand rupees, no deduction shall be allowed in respect of SUCH expenditure.Sec 40 A(3)

The keyword in the section is "SUCH" as highlighted above .

Since depreciation is a deduction which is claimed in respect of such expenditure , it has to be disallowed . Sec 40A(3) and Sec 32 are to be read together and not independently

 


Tushar Mahendru (Learner) (125 Points)
Replied 08 December 2009

Hi Frndz,

Purchase of capital asset on which 100% (or even normal) depreciation is allowable does not constitute expenditure and is not covered u/s 40A(3). Similarly, sec 40A(3) is not attracted if an asset is purchased for Scientific purpose on which depreciation is allowable u/s 35(1)(iv).




Kartik (Service) (40 Points)
Replied 25 March 2011

 

Disallowance u/s 40A(3) cannot be applied to depreciation. It has been held by Hon’ble Supreme Court in the case of Pandyan Insurance Co. Ltd. reported in 55 ITR 716 that depreciation is not ‘expenditure’. Further, this view is fortified by the recent judgment of Delhi ITAT in the case of SMS Demag Private Limited reported in 3 taxmann.com 37.  It was, inter-alia, held in this judgment that disallowance of depreciation cannot be made as a result of non deduction of TDS u/s 40(a)(i). Even though it is in relation to section 40(a)(i), the logic remains same that depreciation is not an ‘expenditure’. Therefore, disallowance u/s 40A(3) cannot apply to depreciation.



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